[kictanet] Parliamentary Committee on Sports Betting

Mon Aug 8 10:15:42 EAT 2016

Banning betting will not necessarily stop betting, it will instead
eradicate it from legal channels.

On Saturday, 6 August 2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Rosemary
>
> True that..
>
> *Ali Hussein*
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> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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> On 6 Aug 2016, at 6:24 PM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu <chemukoechk at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chemukoechk at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Cybertheft is not really innovation (actually the opposite) ,but sport
> pesa is the only company worldwide that has managed to leverage on an
> existing mobile payments platform, and that is where the innovation ends.
> The Kenyan FinTech ecosystem has allowed the business to thrive which is in
> a way a good thing because on a daily basis we are pushing forward new ways
> of utilising mobile money...I support that there needs to be a thorough
> clampdown on unscrupulous results of this.
>
> The only fascinating thing is what laws will evolve out of this, it gives
> us a better understanding of the excesses that can result from financial
> innovation and how best we can deal with this in future.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
>
> On 6 Aug 2016 07:30, "Ali Hussein" <ali at hussein.me.ke
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ali at hussein.me.ke');>> wrote:
>
>> Whatever happened to the Charity Sweepstakes?
>>
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Charity-Sweepstake-loses-out-to
>> -SMS-/1056-1057480-6usbe7/index.html
>>
>> Let's not garnish this issue. What's happening in Kenya and Africa is
>> that we have bred a generation with a 'get-rich-quick' mindset which feeds
>> the gambling industry. And I mean gambling here *NOT* gaming.
>>
>> We need to be clear about differentiating 'Gaming' and 'Gambling'.
>>
>> *Gaming*: The playing of a game or games, including but not limited to
>> video games and games of chance..
>>
>> https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/gaming
>>
>> *Gambling*: is the wagering of money or something of value (referred to
>> as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary
>> intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Gambling thus
>> requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize. The
>> outcome of the wager is often immediate, such as a single roll of dice or a
>> spin of a roulette wheel, but longer time frames are also common, allowing
>> wagers on the outcome of a future sports contest or even an entire sports
>> season.
>>
>> What I actually find super disturbing is the now common 'acceptance' of
>> the interchange of the words *gambling *and* gaming. *
>>
>> *See Wikipedia on the issue below.*
>>
>> The term *gaming* in this context typically refers to instances in which
>> the activity has been specifically permitted by law. The two words are
>> not mutually exclusive; *i.e.*, a "gaming" company offers (legal)
>> "gambling" activities to the public and may be regulated by one of many *gaming
>> control boards*, for example, the *Nevada Gaming Control Board*.
>> However, this distinction is not universally observed in the
>> English-speaking world. For instance, in the UK, the regulator of gambling
>> activities is called the *Gambling** Commission* (not the Gaming
>> Commission). The word *gaming* is used more frequently since the rise of
>> *Computer* and *Video Games* to describe activities that do not
>> necessarily involve wagering, especially *Online Gaming*, with the new
>> usage still not having displaced the old usage as the primary definition in
>> common dictionaries.
>>
>> We need to get back to the Charity Sweepstakes era. Period. Society
>> depends on it.
>>
>> In my humble opinion there cannot be any comparison to what the ICT
>> Industry is doing and what the Gambling Industry is doing. It's like saying
>> cyber theft is innovative because the perpetrators are using ICT.
>>
>> Leta wake up and smell the coffee.
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Principal*
>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
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>> Skype: abu-jomo
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>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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>>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 5 Aug 2016, at 10:22 PM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> wrote:
>>
>> The betting fraternity has benefited heavily from the fairly lax
>> regulatory regime and have failed to make considerations on handling the
>> effects that come as a result of the business,
>>
>> They have only one option and that is to figure out how they will guide
>> the discussion on how they will be regulated.
>>
>> A few months ago they had the option of self regulating, but now the
>> legislators have taken the lead.
>>
>> They may soon find themselves in the same boat as the ICT fraternity is
>> in today, trying to fire hose a faulty proposed regulation I.e the ICT
>> practitioners bill.
>>
>> It is agreed that there is a need to tame the gambling beast but it may
>> be important to protect the innovations that have made their "success"
>> possible. It may help the country if proposed regulation would ensure that
>> the revenues earned from the industry are used for greater public good than
>> is currently being felt, this may be the the only silver lining out of this
>> cloud.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
>>
>> On 5 Aug 2016 16:00, "James Mbugua via kictanet" <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> wrote:
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>>> From an ICT perspective,
>>>
>>> Safaricom should be asked to switch off their short codes for these
>>> betting firms.
>>>
>>> JG
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> Gamification. it's amazing how the debate around gambling has chosen to
>>>> focus on monetary gains, addiction and other associative proclivities. How
>>>> would one for instance compare sports gambling with pokemon? There are
>>>> accounts of an individual who racked a bill of $4,954 a Japanese gymnast in
>>>> Rio thanks to Pokemon Go... Catch ‘em all or go broke tryin.
>>>>
>>>> For me they are both innovations riding on two precincts, one a
>>>> supporting infrastructure - mobile and two consumers psychographics. Much
>>>> needs to be done to support and ensure the government benefits from a
>>>> fiscal  angle of such innovations. I welcome parliamentary committee move
>>>> to seek to understand the gamification phenomenon but ask it to be careful
>>>> not put duress the sports betting firms that might lead to the firms
>>>> contributing to there campaign kitty's to assuage tinkering of policies to
>>>> their advantage.
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts from an ICT perspective?
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
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