[kictanet] CBK lacks tech savvy team to survey local lenders

[Ngigi Waithaka]

Machuhi,

ESBs would be Enterprise Service Bus? If so, whats the current status of
their adoption amongst Banks in .KE?

Rgds

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 3:20 PM, K Machuhi via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Disclosure: bank's so called 'IT audit' is part of what puts food on table
> in my house.
>
> The correct approach is Enterprise IT audit; looking at (core) system,
> data, processes. Then people and bank's strategy. Subject matter expertise
> (SMEs) on core system is must have for most Kenyans bank's, but as ESB's
> get adoption, that necessity will diminish.
>
> The worst mistake bank's make is to get 'IT audit' from conventional
> auditors. Technology side is cryptic, and unless you have someone who can
> ask the right questions, auditors will be made to find out what the bank IT
> team wants them to find out.
>
> Central banks IT audit should simply be outsourced to SMEs. Experts will
> not apply for employment with cbk.
> Also, you will not yet find the SMEs registered with a sector association.
> At the moment, highly qualified persons capable of doing a proper IT audit
> are so few, the world needs them more than they need the world.
>
> Unless central banks act fast (moreso in kenya), there will be faceless
> banks operating outside the regulator. Purely driven by peer to peer and
> non conventional delivery channels.
>
> Km
> On Apr 27, 2016 5:41 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kivuva,
>>
>> My understanding, although of course open to correction, is that IT
>> Systems Auditors are essentially certified auditors with specialist
>> training and skills to audit "through" and "around" IT systems. I would
>> envisage someone with an auditing qualification backed up with a
>> supplementary qualification is systems auditing but at the end of the day
>> this person is an AUDITOR. In addition the training for today's certified
>> auditors already includes systems audit as a subject. So the key skill is
>> auditing, supplemented by systems knowledge. If this is the case then these
>> professionals are already covered under statutory provisions.
>>
>> Waudo
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016, at 04:25 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 27 April 2016 at 16:12, Paul Roy <roykoikai at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Last - As long as I am a the helm of ISACA Kenya, I would like to open up
>> our doors to the various experts within the industry who are willing to
>> retrain IT auditors, IT Security professionals to consider ISACA as an
>> ally. Let us work together, talk to me, come for one of the evening talks
>> and let us grow and strengthen the profession.
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Thanks for the elaborate reply.
>>
>> My main concern is if it's legislated that people with valid IT Systems
>> Audit certifications are the only ones doing IT audits for public interest
>> organisations. The way only Lawyers can only do certain duties, or CPAs. Is
>> this something feasible?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> ______________________
>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
>> twitter.com/lordmwesh
>>
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