<div dir="ltr">Machuhi,<div><br></div><div>ESBs would be Enterprise Service Bus? If so, whats the current status of their adoption amongst Banks in .KE?</div><div><br></div><div>Rgds</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 3:20 PM, K Machuhi via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Disclosure: bank's so called 'IT audit' is part of what puts food on table in my house.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The correct approach is Enterprise IT audit; looking at (core) system, data, processes. Then people and bank's strategy. Subject matter expertise (SMEs) on core system is must have for most Kenyans bank's, but as ESB's get adoption, that necessity will diminish. </p>
<p dir="ltr">The worst mistake bank's make is to get 'IT audit' from conventional auditors. Technology side is cryptic, and unless you have someone who can ask the right questions, auditors will be made to find out what the bank IT team wants them to find out.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Central banks IT audit should simply be outsourced to SMEs. Experts will not apply for employment with cbk. <br>
Also, you will not yet find the SMEs registered with a sector association. At the moment, highly qualified persons capable of doing a proper IT audit are so few, the world needs them more than they need the world. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Unless central banks act fast (moreso in kenya), there will be faceless banks operating outside the regulator. Purely driven by peer to peer and non conventional delivery channels.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Km</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Apr 27, 2016 5:41 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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<div>My understanding, although of course open to correction, is that IT Systems Auditors are essentially certified auditors with specialist training and skills to audit "through" and "around" IT systems. I would envisage someone with an auditing qualification backed up with a supplementary qualification is systems auditing but at the end of the day this person is an AUDITOR. In addition the training for today's certified auditors already includes systems audit as a subject. So the key skill is auditing, supplemented by systems knowledge. If this is the case then these professionals are already covered under statutory provisions.</div>
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<div>Last - As long as I am a the helm of ISACA Kenya, I would like to open up our doors to the various experts within the industry who are willing to retrain IT auditors, IT Security professionals to consider ISACA as an ally. Let us work together, talk to me, come for one of the evening talks and let us grow and strengthen the profession. </div>
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<div>My main concern is if it's legislated that people with valid IT Systems Audit certifications are the only ones doing IT audits for public interest organisations. The way only Lawyers can only do certain duties, or CPAs. Is this something feasible?</div>
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