[kictanet] [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint

Tony White tony.mzungu at gmail.com
Fri Apr 22 12:45:31 EAT 2016 

Time will tell - at least Ubuntu is now shipping on phones and tablets
(and desktops and laptops)  ...And Ubuntu is an already established OS
- FirefoxOS was a new, 'unknown' OS - it was just not the right
approach.

Interestingly, with the right OS, I should be able to hang a monitor,
keyboard and mouse off my 'phone' and have a desktop 100 times more
powerful than the Compaq pentium I bought for 150,000 bob almost 20
years ago, for a tenth the price!

We are in a transition period - the desktop/laptop will be dead in a
couple of years, except for 'power' workstations, which will persist a
bit longer.


On 22/04/2016, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer at gmail.com> wrote:
> Tony that story is simmilar to FirefoxOS. What happened to them?
> On 22 Apr 2016 11:10 am, "Tony White via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> "It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily
>> accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would
>> like it to work."
>>
>> Not quite true
>>
>> Ubuntu (Linux) has a version for phones - still 'beta', although two
>> (Chinese) phone manufacturers are already shipping phones and tablets
>> with Ubuntu installed.  This is totally free and open source, with no
>> ulterior motive behind it.
>>
>> I, for one, will buy my next phone with Ubuntu - and then have
>> consistency across all platforms - desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, and
>> IoT devices.
>>
>> Note that Android is also built on a Linux base - but with Google's
>> proprietary 'bits' on top.
>>
>>
>> On 22/04/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> wrote:
>> > Great points Ahmed.
>> >
>> > As I said this is definitely an interesting one to watch and one that
>> > has
>> > lessons for us in Kenya as we grapple with our own 'Dominance' issues.
>> >
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>> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <
>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is a tricky issue in many ways:
>> >>
>> >>    1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone
>> platform.
>> >>    Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV
>> >> boxes,
>> >>    and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out
>> >> there
>> >> that
>> >>    is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many
>> >> manufacturers
>> >>    would like it to work.
>> >>    2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it
>> >> wants
>> >>    to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to
>> >> receive
>> >> its
>> >>    "free" product to kick start their operations.
>> >>    3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it
>> >>    being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not
>> >> lucrative
>> >>    as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc).
>> >>    4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same
>> >>    issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or
>> >> Bing
>> >>    (Microsoft) as bundled products.
>> >>    5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has
>> >> brought
>> >>    them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would
>> >> have
>> >>    solved this exact same problem. Is it then that the corporates are
>> not
>> >>    willing to invest in such platforms?
>> >>
>> >> Ahmed
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:50 AM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <
>> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Happy Furahi Day!
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for sharing the piece!
>> >>>
>> >>> "One big difference in U.S. antitrust law is that the ultimate
>> barometer
>> >>> of whether something is illegal is whether it negatively affects the
>> >>> consumer—for example, by raising the price of a product or service.
>> That
>> >>> would make it difficult to prosecute Google for antitrust behavior,
>> >>> since
>> >>> the vast majority of its products are free. The European Union,
>> however,
>> >>> doesn’t need to make that argument—it’s free to find Google’s
>> >>> behavior
>> >>> illegal regardless of what it costs."
>> >>>
>> >>> ISOC KE during the next Internet Governance Forum, the Competition
>> >>> Authority would be a great guest to "demystify this Anti-Trust,
>> >>> Dominance
>> >>> terms and practical application.
>> >>>
>> >>> Today's local tech start-up may be less concerned, however, it is the
>> >>> next global tech giant soon.
>> >>>
>> >>> Blessed day.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards/Wangari
>> >>>
>> >>> ---
>> >>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are
>> Restored
>> >>> Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of
>> >>> God
>> >>> on
>> >>> Earth".
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --------------------------------------------
>> >>> On Fri, 22/4/16, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>  Subject: [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint
>> >>>  To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke, ISOC at lists.my.co.ke
>> >>>  Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 3:31
>> >>>
>> >>>  Listers
>> >>>  This should be interesting.
>> >>>  EU hits Google
>> >>>  EU officials
>> >>>   say Google forces phone makers and carriers to
>> >>>  install its services.
>> >>>  For many Android
>> >>>  users, one of the appealing things about Google’s mobile
>> >>>  operating system is that it is an open ecosystem—anyone
>> >>>  can install or modify it, since it is open source, and users
>> >>>  can run any apps they want, something they can’t do on
>> >>>  Apple’s iOS devices. But the European Union doesn’t see
>> >>>  it that way. To the EU, Android is a just tool that Google
>> >>>  uses to expand its mobile and search
>> >>>  monopolies.Read on:-
>> >>>  http://fortune.com/2016/04/21/eu-google-antitrust/Ali
>> >>> HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713
>> >>>  601113 / 0770906375
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