[kictanet] Music Copyright Owners sue ISPs for allowing Kenyans to download content illegally
Bernard Kioko
bkioko at bernsoft.com
Thu Jan 29 17:27:05 EAT 2015
If we got what you describe below don’t you think that would be a good start?
From: James Mbugua [mailto:jgmbugua at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:04 PM
To: Bernard Kioko
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Music Copyright Owners sue ISPs for allowing Kenyans to download content illegally
Kioko,
Have you given the ISPs those sites and they have refused to block them? Shouldn't you be suing the sites?
THe issue of "allowing" does not rise here, kwanza when they mention Privacy this case will be thrown out. What you might get is probably an order for Safaricom to be blocking a site WHEN YOU ALERT THEM TO IT not them out of their efforts to do so.
And these sites can keep popping up so you guys have your work cut out for you. Like another lister mentioned, it might be time to explore other business models.
James
<http://t.signauxneuf.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v5df9RN64kxbFRYHc-N8rBqW6QFLCHW5wfQ8G1k1H6H0?si=5495672839077888&pi=1a9352a4-3f6a-469c-f866-d66593903af1>
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko at bernsoft.com> wrote:
James i posted a link where high court in UK ruled those same sites be blocked by ISPs and that's happening.
What's ur comment on that?
On Jan 29, 2015 2:43 PM, "James Mbugua via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
Hmm...I don't know why I get the feeling this is a case of throwing mud at the wall to see if it will stick.
ISPs have never been held liable for downloading illegal content anywhere in the world. From the get go let us dispense with that. Neither will they be found so in this case.
I remember vividly when Napster came out and also when Kazaa followed....groups went after the sites not the ISPs. To this day, it is piracy sites that even the FBI goes for not the likes of Comcast or AT$T. Data privacy does not allow you to start checking what your customer is downloading or uploading....this is not China and getting into that territory is very dangerous for people's rights.
Let these guys do the hard work and go for the piracy sites or sue NTSA for allowing bhang to be transported on our roads.
lol
Regards,
James
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Davis Onsakia via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Will be an interesting case to keep the eye on.
What is not in doubt is that the final ruling will set a very serious precedent on how to deal with copyright issues when it comes to the Online World.
Best Regards,
Davis M Onsakia
"One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."
On 29 January 2015 at 13:46, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Reading from the article it says there is a list.
On Jan 29, 2015 1:23 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi at gmail.com> wrote:
Does Kenya have necessary laws, and do the copyright holders have a list of infringing sites?
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:04 Bernard Kioko <bkioko at bernsoft.com> wrote:
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/11/uk-high-court-forces-big-isps-block-56-new-internet-piracy-websites.html
On Jan 29, 2015 12:51 PM, "Dennis Kioko via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting case, though I wonder how ISPs allow people to allow content illegally. Any one with some insight? http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Music-copyright-owners-illegal-downloads/-/539550/2605386/-/na4mbsz/-/index.html
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