[kictanet] Music Copyright Owners sue ISPs for allowing Kenyans to download content illegally

Thu Jan 29 15:13:34 EAT 2015

Kenya is known for freedom on the Internet. I hope this action will not
lead to us loosing that status.

https://www.freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-net/freedom-net-2014#.VMojL8X9fIU

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> At one point many ppl didn't believe mpesa would be possible.. It took
> intervention from the late minister michuki....
>
> We r country used to being first in many things
> On Jan 29, 2015 2:59 PM, "Mark Kipyegon via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> From a technical standpoint how feasible is it to simply blacklist sites?
>>
>> Clone sites and proxies exist to circumvent these blocks.
>>
>>
>> On 29/01/2015 14:48, Bernard Kioko via kictanet wrote:
>> > James i posted a link where high court in UK ruled those same sites be
>> > blocked by ISPs and that's happening.
>> >
>> > What's ur comment on that?
>> > On Jan 29, 2015 2:43 PM, "James Mbugua via kictanet" <
>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Listers,
>> >>
>> >> Hmm...I don't know why I get the feeling this is a case of throwing
>> mud at
>> >> the wall to see if it will stick.
>> >>
>> >> ISPs have never been held liable for downloading illegal content
>> anywhere
>> >> in the world. From the get go let us dispense with that. Neither will
>> they
>> >> be found so in this case.
>> >>
>> >> I remember vividly when Napster came out and also when Kazaa
>> >> followed....groups went after the sites not the ISPs. To this day, it
>> is
>> >> piracy sites that even the FBI goes for not the likes of Comcast or
>> AT$T.
>> >> Data privacy does not allow you to start checking what your customer is
>> >> downloading or uploading....this is not China and getting into that
>> >> territory is very dangerous for people's rights.
>> >>
>> >> Let these guys do the hard work and go for the piracy sites or sue NTSA
>> >> for allowing bhang to be transported on our roads.
>> >>
>> >> lol
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> James
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Davis Onsakia via kictanet <
>> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Will be an interesting case to keep the eye on.
>> >>>
>> >>> What is not in doubt is that the final ruling will set a very serious
>> >>> precedent on how to deal with copyright issues when it comes to the
>> Online
>> >>> World.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best Regards,
>> >>> Davis M Onsakia
>> >>> "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of
>> the
>> >>> shore for a very long time."
>> >>>
>> >>> On 29 January 2015 at 13:46, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <
>> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Reading from the article it says there is a list.
>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:23 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Does Kenya have necessary laws, and do the copyright holders have a
>> >>>>> list of infringing sites?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:04 Bernard Kioko <bkioko at bernsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/11/uk-high-court-forces-big-isps-block-56-new-internet-piracy-websites.html
>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2015 12:51 PM, "Dennis Kioko via kictanet" <
>> >>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Interesting case, though I wonder how ISPs allow people to allow
>> >>>>>>> content illegally. Any one with some insight?
>> >>>>>>>
>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Music-copyright-owners-illegal-downloads/-/539550/2605386/-/na4mbsz/-/index.html
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>>
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