[kictanet] Safaricom caps Internet Bundles sharing

Wed Jan 28 12:35:09 EAT 2015

Ali,

Safaricom has not come out and said anything against these resellers so the
element of fraud is far fetched.

It has only sought to limit their activities...

A case of fraud would have been in court by now. It is simply a matter of
economies of scale at work. If you give 20GB for 11K, works out to 1.8GB
for every Sh1000 or 180MB for Sh100.

For Sh100, currently Safaricom gives me 80MB.

It follows...

Regards,

James

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> James
>
> Good points.
>
> Dennis however said there may be some element of fraud. What do you say to
> that?
>
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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 11:58 AM, James Mbugua via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>
> Take it this way...I buy a bundle for Sh1000. I get 1.5GB. There is an
> extra 500Mb which I can sell.
>
> At about 11K I get 20GB. You see the math.
>
> The so-called "free" data can be repackaged into saleable data packages.
>
> Onto the questions:
>
> 1. Safaricom has always been out-innovated by our young chaps. Whether it
> is the guys who were running MPESA in Kampala and Juba or the guys who
> created a thriving market for BongaPoints or this..you name it.
>
> 2. Yes. The behaviour is anti-competitive.
>
> They have already sold the data and gotten their money, why do they want
> to go after resellers and their customers?
>
> I think these things will continue happening until the giant realizes it
> is grown too big to be bothering with individual customers on some things.
> Just let resellers handle it.
>
> JG
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Dennis Kioko via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> You can still buy bulk bundles - 20 GB etc and resell at lower costs than
>> smaller bundles, but not to the extent that these guys were selling them
>> that, indicating their acquisition price was way too low.
>>
>>
>> On Wed Jan 28 2015 at 10:38:40 Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have always wondered how come people were able to sell bundles cheaply
>>> than Safaricom sells.
>>>
>>> On 28 January 2015 at 09:45, Dennis Kioko via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems the bundles being sold here were fraudulently acquired from a
>>>> program that provides promotional bundles to newly activated phones.
>>>>
>>>> Most of such issues emanate from internal fraud.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 02:47 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Listers
>>>>>
>>>>> I found this article extremely interesting for two key reasons:-
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Are Safaricom customers (resellers) out-innovating the giant? Some
>>>>> savvy Kenyans have found a way to sell data cheaper than Safaricom. How
>>>>> about that?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Would you categorize Safaricom's behavior as Anti-Competitive or
>>>>> justified to ensure certain levels of 'service'?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Safaricom-targets-data-resellers/-/539550/2599286/-/item/0/-/bkx19ez/-/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Judge for yourself.
>>>>>
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