[kictanet] AG BLOCKS ICT CS' BID TO ENACT ANTI-SAFARICOM LAW

Wed Aug 12 17:32:26 EAT 2015

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On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> It seems Safaricom's role in our society is now cross cutting across
> industries. Thus the unlikely support from Health CS.
>
> Health Cabinet Secretary James Macharia has defended telecoms operator
> Safaricom over calls to declare the company a dominant player in the market
> saying the move risks killing innovations.
>
> Mr Macharia said companies that invest in emerging technologies meant to
> improve on service delivery and spur economic development ought to be
> encouraged as opposed to being unnecessarily attacked
>
>
> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/James-Macharia-defends-Safaricom-dominance/-/1950946/2829008/-/format/xhtml/-/sfuqrw/-/index.html
> On Aug 6, 2015 1:39 PM, "meshack via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all
>>  And again, safaricom may not be dominant in the internationsl market but
>> will help shape the future of investment and enterpreneural environment in
>> kenya
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: meshack via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: 06/08/2015 13:00 (GMT+03:00)
>> To: memakunat at yahoo.com
>> Cc: meshack <memakunat at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] AG BLOCKS ICT CS' BID TO ENACT ANTI-SAFARICOM LAW
>>
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> @Mwendwa, comparing safaricom and the likes of mumias telecom kenya and
>> mumias is not right. I dont think safaricom is playing the same field as
>> these companies, and again they aint shell companies if u get to understand
>> there objectives.
>> Safaricom has been able to thrive because it has allowed innovation to
>> thrive yet if we look at the case of telecom kenya the beauracracies that
>> was involved did not let the idea of innovation thrive within it, and again
>> i dont think kenya airways is even close to be at the same table as  saf,
>> for aguement sake maybe a restructuring of its capital will let them out of
>> the hole for a bit say why borrow money to buy expensive boeings yet wherr
>> u borrow there is a cost and where  r buying there is eve  a greater cost
>> than remaining vile vile!
>> Someone agued some times back that the case in turkana where they are
>> seeing a vgreat economic development for a short span may not hold since
>> there are no right institution that can channel the growth and development
>> to a level as norway. My point being that since the structures and policies
>> thst has led to the status of mumias we archaic ( if thats the word) and
>> that they were allowed to thrive in a modernized environment where
>> competition thrives hences the porus nature of the organization.
>> If we dont allow institutilnal restructuring in our country we may never
>> get to where norway is assuming our major resource is not just oil like
>> norway but any other that u think fits in my arguement.
>> At some point in the industrial revolution the american economy was
>> support almost completely by oil steel snd electricity which where
>> controlled extremely by monopoly. These drove to great social and
>> economic disparity and a great gap between the wealth and not just rich,
>> and the poor. Politics intervined at one point that allowed the wealth
>> trickle to the or and thus an environment for innovation competition and
>> creativity
>>
>> I dont see any case of capital flight in any case due to the politics
>> involved.
>> Unless the foreign investors are threatened and the environment in kenya
>> becomes risky we will still have airtel prefer kenyan market and even
>> continue to invest in assets within the  contry simply because of the
>> challenge that they are exposed to. If the risk is too high then the
>> returns must guarantee the opportunity cost.
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: 06/08/2015 10:34 (GMT+03:00)
>> To: memakunat at yahoo.com
>> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] AG BLOCKS ICT CS' BID TO ENACT ANTI-SAFARICOM LAW
>>
>>
>> This is a debate that Kenyans should not take lightly. For any law that
>> comes into force, the citizens must be consulted widely.
>> Here are a few questions I've been asking myself :
>> 1. Are we fighting proxy wars? Who wants Safaricom dead?
>> 2. Is there any citizen in his right mind who wants to see Safaricom go
>> the way of Telkom, Kenya Airways, Mumias...  Remember these shell companies
>> were once the pride of the nation.
>> 3.  Airtel is the largest mobile operator in South Asia and the
>> third largest in the world with a 303 million subscriber base. Safaricom
>> subscriber base worldwide is less than 10% of that.
>> 4. Airtel has a total equity of US$26 billion with revenue of about $15
>> billion compared to Safaricom's around $2 billion with $1.4 billion
>> revenue. Are these two companies competing at the same level?
>> 5. As of year 2012, Orange had a revenue of €43.5 billion and equity of
>> €24.3 billion and total assets of €90 billion.  Are these companies worth
>> us Sacrifice our toddler Safaricom?
>> 5. Would Safaricom enjoy the same rights as Airtel in say, India or
>> France? Would Safaricom get a licence in the first place in these markets?
>> 6. We have seen how multinationals steal from Kenyans by evading taxes
>> through transfer pricing, declaring false losses,  etc. Why would we want
>> to kill our crown jewel in support of thugs?
>> 7. Capital flight: where do profits of these multinationals go as
>> compared to those of Safaricom?
>>
>> Have a thoughtful day.
>>
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