[kictanet] Does cashless matatu system have a regulatory framework?
Dennis Kioko
dmbuvi at gmail.com
Tue Nov 11 14:40:28 EAT 2014
Adam,
Do you know we even have no idea who is exactly behind the My1963 card?
That's how open our systems are.
Also, the roughshod implementation of this ignoring various stakeholders
will just result in another bribe soliciting channel for police officers -
where matatus will just ignore the Abiria card and factor non-compliance as
a cost that needs to be added to their weekly remittances to the police
force.
Also, matatu hijackings are now primarily targeting passengers and their
belongings. There are even special purpose vehicles which are formed for
only one purpose of luring unsuspecting pedestrians to board a rogue matatu
for them to be hijacked.
Also, again, there are so many matatu initiatives headed to different
routes - even the government appears to lack a single, coherent policy.
Wish us luck as we are jostled inside this policy matatu.
On Tue Nov 11 2014 at 14:20:45 Walubengo J via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> True that Adam,
>
> Monopolies are not necessarily bad since they can ensure a consolidated
> market to justify investments. HOWEVER "Private monopolies" rather than
> "Public monopolies" is a different ball game altogether. From my limited
> travels into the developed North, most (the bulk) of their transport system
> is under the Public Metropolitan/County government - with room for private
> sector intervention and innovations.
>
> In Kenya we seem to have got it upside down. Private sector single
> handedly runs our public transport system - and you can see where this
> landed us. I miss the days when I was just 10years old and was allowed to
> use the Public transport aka Kenya Bus Service in 1980s to go alone to
> public primary school (now @MbuguaNjihia has confirmed am ancient :-)
>
> Indeed I am quite suprised by the loud silence from the Nairobi County
> government. Perhaps they are also lost in terms of how, where, when and if
> they could get involved in this cashless payment system. The big picture
> (regulatory/market structure) seems to be in limited circulation.
>
> walu.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 11/11/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Does cashless matatu system have a regulatory
> framework?
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2014, 1:00 PM
>
> It's
> not unreasonable to have a single, mandated card for this
> purpose. New York's MetroCard is a great example (as
> is the Oyster Card). Virtually every city I've been to
> has one and only one card for mass transportation.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetroCard_(New_York_City)
>
> As with
> most things, NYC Transit outsources most of the underlying
> infrastructure to a private company:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_Transportation_Systems
>
> As long
> as the margins are well defined, there is little in-house
> fraud, and the system generally works, the lack of
> competition isn't such a big deal. The most important
> thing is that the numbers are published and audited
> regularly and that the underlying vendor can be replaced in
> the future (i.e. Nairobi County maintains intellectual
> property over key assets so there's no vendor lock-in
> beyond the contract period).
> -Adam
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> On
> Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
> Thanks Walu. You certainly ask
> valid questions. What comes to mind is consumer protection,
> and ensuring data collected about consumers is not used in
> ways that the consumer does not ascent to. I'm assuming
> we will read the terms of service.
> I don't expect any player in the
> industry to be a monopoly, and certaily my1963 card wil
> operate alongside BebaPay and AbiriaCard. What I would also
> like to see is the ability to pay with our NFC enabled debit
> and credit cards. Consumers should have a
> choice.
> Cofek's
> appeal is mostly based on Article 10 of the constitution
> where government is expected to involve all stakeholders
> holders (yes multistakeholderism is here to stay) in
> decision making. If there was a stakeholders forum, many of
> these questions would have been asked there.
> Well, the cashles system has worked
> before in Kenya hitherto with mixed reactions from the
> commuters. I support it bearing in mind the many times
> I've forgotten my change. As agents of changes in
> society, we should support the initiative, and let it
> mature. We can learn from other cities, especially Transport
> for London which has a very successful Oyster Card.
> Regards
>
> On
> Tuesday, 11 November 2014, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> Hi Walu,
>
>
>
> We are in interesting times, what happens to the squad
> fellows? They
>
> normally get a tenth of the fare for their touting. I wonder
> whether a
>
> feasibility study was done. The Matatu culture is too
> complicated ,
>
> this system would work with a more organized Nyayo Bus or
> KBS kind of
>
> system.
>
>
>
> My 2 cents
>
>
>
> On 11/11/14, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
>
> > The President launched the cashless matatu payment
> system in style last
>
> > week.
>
> >
>
> > Boarding a matatu from State House to the City Centre,
> the President used
>
> > the payment card "My1963" to pay his fare as the
> smiling Safaricom CEO, Bob
>
> > Collymore, the Matatu Owners association Chairman,
> Simon Kimutai and the
>
> > Cabinet Secretary for Transport and Infrastructure, Eng
> Michael Kamau all
>
> > watched.
>
> >
>
> > Read more @
>
> > http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/
> 2274560/2518070/-/10vedrez/-/index.html
>
> >
>
> > ---------------------------
>
> > Additionally, you can read a bare knuckle view from
> Cofek
>
> > ** 7 reasons why Cofek will fight to stop the #My1963
> PSV's cashless payment
>
> > fraud
>
> >
>
> > The National Transport Safety Authority (NTSA) plan to
> go cashless on fare
>
> > payments effective December 1, 2014 though welcome
> cannot escape public
>
> > scrutiny.
>
> >
>
> > Clearly, majority commuters are not ready thanks to the
> very poor and less
>
> > than transparent handling of the cashless fare payments
> for Public Service
>
> > Vehicles (PSV's).
>
> >
>
> > If digital migration switch-off of analogue TV signal
> could go to the
>
> > Supreme Court, then the architects behind the so-called
> #My1963 fraud must
>
> > not celebrate just yet. Why?
>
> >
>
> > READ more @
>
> > http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/872-7-reasons-why-
> cofek-will-fight-to-stop-the-my1963-psv-s-cashless-payment-fraud
>
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