[kictanet] eCitizen Working Well
Adam Nelson
adam at varud.com
Sat Nov 8 18:30:23 EAT 2014
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report
Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014
HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3
2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9
3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2
4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6
5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0
6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6
7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6
8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3
9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2
10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4
11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2
12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7
13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1
14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9
15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7
16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8
17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1
18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5
19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2
20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9
18:29:36 ~ $
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On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
> Adam
>
> Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble
> opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on
> to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be
> serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
>
> One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop
> the payment gateway!
>
> Great start Team Kenya Government!
>
> Regards
>
> *Ali Hussein*
>
> +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>
> Skype: abu-jomo
>
> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>
> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>
> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
> have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
>
> 1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form
> submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time
> without looking at the source?
> 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal
> residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in
> that system unfortunately.
>
> Otherwise, great stuff!
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
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>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>>
>> + Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
>>
>> First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging
>> conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had
>> first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these
>> comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it
>> is functional.
>>
>> I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the
>> improved use of ICT's in government.
>>
>> Regards
>> Gideon Rop
>> DCA
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen
>>> portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
>>>
>>> All worked out very well.
>>>
>>> Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
>>>
>>> NTSA customer service was great.
>>>
>>> Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old
>>> paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
>>>
>>> I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My
>>> messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
>>>
>>> Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. Getao,
>>> Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Muthoni
>>>
>>> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
>>>
>>> First they ignore you,
>>> Then they laugh at you,
>>> Then they fight you,
>>> AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:19:22 +0300
>>> From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>>> To: Dorcas Muthoni <
>>>
>>> dmuthoni at gmail.com>, KICTAnet ICT Policy
>>> Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well
>>> Message-ID: <F34D59C1-1268-438C-A73D-BC97A7BB9806 at hussein.me.ke>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Dorcas
>>>
>>> I second that..
>>>
>>> Ali Hussein
>>>
>>> +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>
>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
>>> will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi All,
>>> >
>>> > Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the
>>> eCitizen portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently.
>>> >
>>> > All worked out very well.
>>> >
>>> > Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
>>> >
>>> > NTSA customer service was great.
>>> >
>>> > Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our
>>> old paper booklet DL version for the replacement.
>>> >
>>> > I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! My
>>> messenger collected the DL painlessly too.
>>> >
>>> > Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr.
>>> Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Muthoni
>>> >
>>> > My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
>>> > --------------------------------------------
>>> > Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
>>> >
>>> > First they ignore you,
>>> > Then they laugh at you,
>>> > Then they fight you,
>>> > AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
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>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy
>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>> >
>>> > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:27:52 -0800
>>> From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>> To: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <1415381272.92787.YahooMailBasic at web162805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>>
>>> @Muthoni, @Ali,
>>>
>>> Ave quickly browsed throug the system http://www.ecitizen.go.ke/
>>>
>>> Must agree it looks pretty. Though the registration process got me
>>> stuck at the "Upload your recent Picture". How on earth was this system
>>> supposed to know my recent picture? Anyway, I did not have any picture and
>>> had to cheat the system to get through. Just put a picture of my dream car
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Victor/Evans, just lose that requirement of "Upload your Recent"
>>> picture. Otherwise this does look like a sign of good things to come and
>>> you should make more noise about it.
>>>
>>> walu.
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Fri, 11/7/14, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well
>>> To:
>>>
>>> jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:19 PM
>>>
>>> Dorcas
>>> I second that..
>>>
>>> Ali
>>> Hussein
>>> +254 770
>>> 906375 / 0713 601113 <%200713%20601113>
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn:?
>>> http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog:?www.alyhussein.com
>>>
>>> "I fear the day
>>> technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
>>> have a generation of idiots". ?~ Albert
>>> Einstein
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> On Nov 7,
>>> 2014, at 5:31 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the
>>> ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for
>>> a duplicate DL recently.
>>> All worked out very
>>> well.
>>> Thumbs up to the
>>> Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
>>> NTSA customer service was
>>> great.
>>> Times tower 3rd
>>> Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old
>>> paper booklet DL version for the
>>> replacement.?
>>> I did
>>> not leave my desk to have these going which was even
>>> greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly
>>> too.
>>> Kudos to all
>>> behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr.
>>> Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.?
>>> --
>>> Muthoni
>>>
>>> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
>>>
>>> First they ignore you,
>>> Then
>>> they laugh at you,
>>> Then they fight you,
>>> AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Unsubscribe
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>>> The Kenya
>>> ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved
>>> in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a
>>> catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the
>>> national aim of ICT enabled growth and
>>> development.
>>>
>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
>>> standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in
>>> real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share
>>> knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect
>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or
>>> qualifications.
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>>> (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and
>>> institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform
>>> in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT
>>> enabled growth and development.
>>>
>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards
>>> of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life:
>>> respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge,
>>> don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>>> not spam, do not market your wares or
>>> qualifications.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 21:14:25 +0300
>>> From: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
>>> To: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well
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>>>
>>> Its great to see government being praised. We are going places Kenya.
>>>
>>> Next step, and I hope authorities are listening. Lets have a single
>>> document. Think of a smart card with chip and NFC. Store all data from
>>> identification, PIN, Driving Licence, Insurance, .... The booklet DL is
>>> so
>>> primordial.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Friday, 7 November 2014, Walubengo J via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> > @Muthoni, @Ali,
>>> >
>>> > Ave quickly browsed throug the system http://www.ecitizen.go.ke/
>>> >
>>> > Must agree it looks pretty. Though the registration process got me
>>> stuck
>>> > at the "Upload your recent Picture". How on earth was this system
>>> supposed
>>> > to know my recent picture? Anyway, I did not have any picture and had
>>> to
>>> > cheat the system to get through. Just put a picture of my dream car
>>> :-)
>>> >
>>> > Victor/Evans, just lose that requirement of "Upload your Recent"
>>> picture.
>>> > Otherwise this does look like a sign of good things to come and you
>>> should
>>> > make more noise about it.
>>> >
>>> > walu.
>>> > --------------------------------------------
>>> > On Fri, 11/7/14, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] eCitizen Working Well
>>> > To: jwalu at yahoo.com <javascript:;>
>>> > Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:19 PM
>>> >
>>> > Dorcas
>>> > I second that..
>>> >
>>> > Ali
>>> > Hussein
>>> > +254 770
>>> > 906375 / 0713 601113 <%200713%20601113>
>>> > Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn:
>>> > http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
>>> >
>>> > "I fear the day
>>> > technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
>>> > have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert
>>> > Einstein
>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>> > On Nov 7,
>>> > 2014, at 5:31 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <
>>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:;>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi All,
>>> > Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the
>>> > ICT Authority Team, i used the eCitizen portal to apply for
>>> > a duplicate DL recently.
>>> > All worked out very
>>> > well.
>>> > Thumbs up to the
>>> > Pesapal team, that payment went very well!
>>> > NTSA customer service was
>>> > great.
>>> > Times tower 3rd
>>> > Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our old
>>> > paper booklet DL version for the
>>> > replacement.
>>> > I did
>>> > not leave my desk to have these going which was even
>>> > greater! My messenger collected the DL painlessly
>>> > too.
>>> > Kudos to all
>>> > behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr.
>>> > Getao, Harry, Mugambi and entire team.
>>> > --
>>> > Muthoni
>>> >
>>> > My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/
>>> > --------------------------------------------
>>> > Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
>>> >
>>> > First they ignore you,
>>> > Then
>>> > they laugh at you,
>>> > Then they fight you,
>>> > AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>> > ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
>>> > platform for people and institutions interested and involved
>>> > in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a
>>> > catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the
>>> > national aim of ICT enabled growth and
>>> > development.
>>> >
>>> > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
>>> > standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in
>>> > real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share
>>> > knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect
>>> > privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or
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>>> > (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and
>>> > institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>>> > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform
>>> > in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT
>>> > enabled growth and development.
>>> >
>>> > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards
>>> > of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life:
>>> > respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge,
>>> > don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>>> > not spam, do not market your wares or
>>> > qualifications.
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>>> > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>>> > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>> > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and
>>> development.
>>> >
>>> > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>>> > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
>>> bandwidth,
>>> > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy,
>>> do
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>>>
>>>
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>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
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>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>
> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
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> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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