[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 84, Issue 18

Fri May 9 13:20:10 EAT 2014

+1 on Michael's opinion

Best Regards,

*Ephraim Percy Kenyanito*

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>    1. Re: CCK & ISPs to Block of Websites? (Michael Murungi)
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> Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 13:15:22 +0300
> From: Michael Murungi <michaelmurungi at gmail.com>
> To: Fiona Asonga <tespok at tespok.co.ke>,  KICTAnet ICT Policy
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK & ISPs to Block of Websites?
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> Dear Fiona & All
> Thanks for a great conversation.
> 1. On this point: When liability of network content is placed on the
> network operator as opposed to the network users what is there to protect
> the users privacy if the the network operator proceeds to prey in the name
> of protecting themselves from liability?  -  We need legislation protecting
> intermediaries from liability (intermediary liability legislation) -
> government is willing to pass this - it has made this promise in the
> National ICT Masterplan - perhaps Tespok can convene a working
> group/roundtable on this so that the position comes out well in the Data
> Protection Law?
>
> 2. On reporting about any requests from government, we can perhaps learn
> from the Trasparency Reports published by a number of tech companies:
> - - https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/
>  - https://transparency.twitter.com/
> -http://transparency.verizon.com/us-data
> -
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/reporting/transparency/
>
>
> Kindest regards,
> Michael M. Murungi
>
>
>
> On 9 May 2014 12:50, Fiona Asonga via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> > Hallo Ali
> >
> > Thanks for the interest in the subject matter, kindly find my responses
> > inline:
> >
> >
> > Fiona Asonga
> > Chief Executive Officer
> > Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ Kenya Internet
> > Exchange Point
> > Member Strategic Committee of the Africa Computer Emergency Response Team
> >
> > NRO Number Council http://www.nro.net/about/number-council.html
> >
> > ASO Address Council http://aso.icann.org/ac/
> >
> >
> > 14 th Floor, Bruce House
> > Standard Street
> >
> > Tel: +254 20 2245 036
> > Cell: +254 721 713 504
> >
> > Website: www.tespok.or.ke
> >
> >
> >
> > ?Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction
> > within the Industry and Government?
> >
> >
> >
> > Fiona Asonga
> > Chief Executive Officer
> > Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ Kenya Internet
> > Exchange Point
> > Member Strategic Committee of the Africa Computer Emergency Response Team
> >
> > *NRO Number Council*   *http://www.nro.net/about/number-council.html*<
> http://www.nro.net/about/number-council.html>
> >
> > *ASO Address Council*  *http://aso.icann.org/ac/*<
> http://aso.icann.org/ac/>
> >
> >
> > 14th Floor, Bruce House
> > Standard Street
> >
> > Tel: +254 20 2245 036
> > Cell: +254 721 713 504
> >
> > Website: www.tespok.or.ke
> >
> >
> > <http://www.tespok.or.ke/>
> > *?Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction *
> > *within the Industry and Government?*
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From: *"Ali Hussein" <ali at hussein.me.ke>
> > *To: *tespok at tespok.co.ke
> > *Cc: *"KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > *Sent: *Friday, May 9, 2014 11:32:22 AM
> >
> > *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] CCK & ISPs to Block of Websites?
> >
> > Fiona
> >
> > Thanks for speaking out. Appreciated.
> >
> > May I make some comments/ask some questions?
> >
> > We must balance the needs for privacy and national security. Where this
> > country is at the moment we should appreciate the government's
> fundamental
> > duty of safeguarding citizens' security and the country's infrastructure.
> > Having said that it is also incumbent on the industry to have some
> > transparency as required by our constitution. For avoidance of doubt has
> > the industry:-
> >
> > 1. Received requests to monitor individual email and search activity in
> > Kenya?
> > There has been no request to monitor any individual emails in Kenya.
> > However, as an industry we have been concerned about certain amendments
> to
> > the KCA carried out in 2008 that were rather vague giving excessive power
> > to network operators to carry out the above. When liability of network
> > content is placed on the network operator as opposed to the network users
> > what is there to protect the users privacy if the the network operator
> > proceeds to prey in the name of protecting themselves from liability?
> This
> > is one important issue that we hope will be amended once we have the Data
> > Protection Act in place.
> >
> > 2. Is there any report that the industry puts together where we can see:-
> > a) Govt request of the above?
> > We are still in the initial process of negotiating the operational
> > framework of how government can work in partnership with private sector.
> We
> > are yet to receive a request from government. When the requests start
> > coming in we shall document and have a both a public and detailed reports
> > of our operations.
> >
> > b) How many were obliged and how many refused?
> > None have come through yet
> >
> > 3. Cyber security breaches and how they were dealt with?
> > From our reports on the usalama site you will notice that the cyber
> > security breaches numbers vary depending on the type of threat, source
> and
> > country out of which attack is stemming from. We have presented the
> reports
> > as per month and quarter with all the breached we observed.
> > On dealing with the security breaches:
> > TESPOK has a 24/7/365 monitoring system that send alerts based on the
> > threat priority to the TESPOK technical team. Then we begin to engage the
> > ISP
> > 1st point of contact is the respective ISP security staff whom we contact
> > with breach details and recommendations and give them time to remedy
> > situation.
> > 2nd point of contact is the Network/IT head to report the status from our
> > end
> > 3rd point of contact is the CEO of the respective ISP if his team is
> > unable to remedy situation, we request permission to assist resolve the
> > breach at no extra cost to the ISPs. We also provide the CEO all the
> > information they require about the breach in the event that the public
> need
> > to be informed. In the last one year we have had 2 major breaches that
> saw
> > us follow this process and introduce engagement with Kenya Bankers
> > Association due to the financial institutions that were at risk.
> > We are working on a program for the financial sector that will be
> deployed
> > as soon as Kenya Bankers Association have finalized implementation issues
> > at their end.
> >
> > Kenya is at the top of Internet freedom worldwide. We must temper this
> > freedom with responsibility. Its a fine balance and requires both the
> > private sector, non-governmental players and the government itself to
> work
> > in tandem to ensure this freedom is not abused.
> > I couldn't have put it better, online security is a space we all need to
> > participate in a stakeholders of the shared platform.
> >
> > On the part of Government, we must urge them that while they ensure and
> > safeguard our borders both within and without they must do it within the
> > purviews of humanity and decency - after all that is what differentiates
> us
> > from those who seek to destroy what we hold dear.
> >
> >
> > *Ali Hussein*
> >
> > +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
> >
> > Twitter: @AliHKassim
> >
> > Skype: abu-jomo
> >
> > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<
> http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
> >
> > Blog: www.alyhussein.com
> >
> > "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
> > have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On May 9, 2014, at 9:02 AM, "Fiona  Asonga" <tespok at tespok.co.ke> wrote:
> >
> > Hallo Listers,
> >
> > TESPOK the umbrella body for service providers that runs the KIXP has
> > taken time to follow up on the posts in the preceding emails.
> >
> > TESPOK as the industry body for service providers has been running a
> > Computer Security Incident Response Team since 2009. We have realtime
> user
> > access to for service providers to view auto-generated reports of their
> > network status. CCK has been working with TESPOK since 2011 to ensure
> > network integrity for the safety of Internet users. The working
> > arrangements places TESPOK as the face of the ISPs in as far as CCK and
> > cyber security is concerned. We are unable to confirm any requests to
> block
> > websites or blogs, however ISPs have been requested by both TESPOK and
> CCK
> > to have dedicated Network Security staff.
> >
> > It is my view that the request to engage may have been mis-understood or
> > mis-communicated. KIXP is dependent on content and it would be counter
> > productive for TESPOK to support blocking of websites thus reducing
> content
> > access at the KIXP.
> >
> > In the event that we note changes to our mode of engagement with CCK in a
> > manner to negatively impact on the end users' experience we shall not
> > hesitate to speak up. For more details on our cyber security program
> kindly
> > visit www.cyberusalama.co.ke or www.usalama.co.ke
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> >
> > Fiona Asonga
> > Chief Executive Officer
> > Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ Kenya Internet
> > Exchange Point
> > Member Strategic Committee of the Africa Computer Emergency Response Team
> >
> > NRO Number Council http://www.nro.net/about/number-council.html
> >
> > ASO Address Council http://aso.icann.org/ac/
> >
> >
> > 14 th Floor, Bruce House
> > Standard Street
> >
> > Tel: +254 20 2245 036
> > Cell: +254 721 713 504
> >
> > Website: www.tespok.or.ke
> >
> >
> >
> > ?Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction
> > within the Industry and Government?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > To: tespok at tespok.co.ke
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 2:16:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK & ISPs to Block of Websites?
> >
> >
> >
> > Wash & all
> >
> >
> > Its not the blocking that worries me. It's the big brother syndrome that
> > concerns me. That Govts worldwide have this syndrome is a foregone
> > conclusion. The ones who are not in the news just haven't been caught yet
> > or are openly doing it - China, Russia, Middle East countries etc.
> >
> >
> > Ali Hussein
> >
> >
> > +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Twitter: @AliHKassim
> >
> > Skype: abu-jomo
> >
> > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
> >
> > Blog: www.alyhussein.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
> > have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On May 7, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think it's not going to be easy to block web content unless the govt
> > buys the equipment the ISPs need for this purpose - content filtering.
> You
> > can block a website, but it's another game altogether to block the
> content.
> > Content can be moved very easily to other hosts. Plus, it's gonna be
> > futile, because that very content will be shared on Social Media the
> moment
> > the govt opens its mouth:) You know that once it's in social media, it's
> > not just a website anymore we're talking about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So, IMHO, I believe the govt will NOT be doing this.
> >
> >
> > Victor, is there a law that allows the govt or it's agents to block web
> > content? What are the provisions within that law, and are those
> provisions
> > violated by those websites.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5 May 2014 21:23, Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <
> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear listers,
> >
> > I came across this tweet earlier today. I'm not sure of the legitimacy of
> > the claim, but could someone from CCK, any ISP or lister respond to the
> > allegations / shed more light on this?
> >
> >
> > Tweet from Robert Alai (@RobertAlai)
> >
> > Robert Alai (@RobertAlai) tweeted at 1:22 PM on Mon, May 05, 2014:
> >
> > Now the govt through CCK wants ISPs to block some 15 websites and blogs
> > critical of the government.
> >
> > ( https://twitter.com/RobertAlai/status/463262331695550464 )
> >
> > Victor
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