[kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?

Judy M. Muli judym.muli at gmail.com
Thu May 8 15:32:24 EAT 2014


 Hi All,
@Walu & the rest of the Team,

The discussion points are well Noted and they are excellent. the Agenda of
the ICT professional body is clear;, very clear to each and everyone of us.
For us not to be the Tower of Babel as rightfully put- the Question still
remains? what will be the differentiating factor -the Core Competences?
what is this one or two or three  Minimum necessary requirements ?  These
are some basic questions that needs our answers today, so that before the
World cup begins, we either decide to strengthen CSK (Speaking as an annual
subscriber-, & I understand there is an  ICT Managers congress ongoing in
MSA right now); or Form a new  ICT professional body, at least  if not for
any of us on KICKTAnet today, for our children and the generations to come.
Legacy beckons brothers and sisters'

Kind regards,
Judy



On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

> @Judy,
>
> +1
>
> I noted some unfounded "fears" about such a body on the Nation blog.  The
> proposed professional body is not in anyway intended to stop youngsters
> from coding solutions.  Particularly because most major inventions in IT
> were done by student folks in Universities - who never belonged to any
> professional body.
>
> The main idea of the body is to provide a single-source of engagement with
> government, industry, civil society or any other group wishing to tap into
> a collective position on major ICT matters of public concern.  Without this
> we are just a tower of (many) Babels - as noted by Ali.
>
> Meanwhile @Njogu, UK has indeed such a group
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Computer_Society. The US does not
> exactly have it but has the role catered for. Check out
>
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/PCAST/pcast_big_data_and_privacy_-_may_2014.pdf
>
> walu.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 5/7/14, Judy M. Muli via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?
>  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>  Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 4:01 PM
>
>  Hello,Lawrence, that sounds like
>  a serious research topic right  there; Concept paper
>  coming right up!With all the earlier mentioned
>  Professional institutions (ICPAK, Engineers, e.t.c) it
>  borders on Minimum necessary professional Qualifications,
>  Continuous professional development in the  sector, among
>  others;
>   For starters we just need to identify the
>  Minimum necessary professional qualifications
>  : Kind
>  regards,Judy
>
>
>  On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Lawrence Njogu via kictanet
>  <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>  Even in the
>  developed world, ICT does not have an internationally
>  accepted lobby group or aggregation body of knowledge. The
>  first step would be to clearly define the core body of
>  knowledge outlining the foundational knowledge for specific
>  subject domain(s) or professions with ICT. They would
>  outline a set of "core" knowledge underlying the
>  specialist or specialty
>   knowledge within ICT. Then you could possibly have an
>  umbrella body that brings the various domains into a
>  congregate/communal lobby group.
>
>  Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 18:37:38
>  +0300
>  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for
>  the ICT professionals in Kenya?
>
>  CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>  From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>  To: lnjogu at hotmail.com
>
>
>  Its not so easy like lawyers or
>  doctors as ict proffessionals dobt have a core trade. Is
>  there a single set of skklls that an ICT proffessional
>  requires that he can operate with without
>  specialization?
>
>  On May 6, 2014 4:29 PM, "Ali Hussein via
>  kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  wrote:
>
>
>  Grace
>  Thanks for bringing this
>  up.
>  Walu, thanks for
>  the thoughtful piece. Indeed its a major issue. I'm not
>  sure whether we need regulation or a lobby group. Or both?
>  There are various moribund associations that purport to
>  represent ICT in the country. And some new ones that seem to
>  be getting some traction.
>
>
>  Maybe that's why the
>  government doesn't listen to us? We are a Tower of
>  Babel?
>  Regards
>
>  Ali
>  Hussein
>
>
>  +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
>
>  Twitter:
>  @AliHKassim
>  Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>
>  Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>
>
>  "I
>  fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The
>  world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert
>  Einstein
>  Sent
>  from my iPad
>
>
>  On May 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Grace
>  Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>  The
>  lawyers have the Law Society of
>  Kenya (LSK),
>  the engineers have the Engineers Board
>  of Kenya (EBK)
>  the doctors have the Kenya
>  Medical Practitioners and Dentist Board,
>  the media professionals have the Media Council
>  of Kenya while
>  the accountants have ICPAK.
>  But who speaks for the ICT professionals in
>  Kenya?
>
>
>
> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html
>
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