[kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?

Thu May 8 08:52:15 EAT 2014

Hijacking your thought/thread...

Just noted a comment by Aliko Dangote (a Nigerian Billionaire) that he
needs a visa to 38 countries, which means an American has more access into
Africa than he does.

Israeli culture tends to invent/produce new ways of doing things. When look
for establishments (multinationals designed to work in foreign nations)
instead if innovations (localized solutions) we fail to cause positive
change in our society.

>From my point of view, Kenyan IT Professionals in Management should stop
ruining their future prospects (handling mega projects and becoming company
shareholders) by favoring foreigners who would not ordinarily do coffee or
lunch with them.

Note: Alcohol tends to be an addiction which brings people together when
they are looking to unwind (not to produce), so it does not apply here.

Regards

Murigi / Stanley Muraya
On May 7, 2014 6:31 PM, "Lawrence Njogu via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Walu,
> The white paper that you referenced is a good example of how a
> congregation of various advocacy groups ( aka special interests) work
> together to influence policies and/or public opinion in the US. I am very
> familiar on how it works here in Washington, DC. So, the most important
> aspect is how the different specialist groups within ICT decide to bond to
> pursue a common interest.
>
> > Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 07:24:25 -0700
> > CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?
> > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > To: lnjogu at hotmail.com
> >
> > @Judy,
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I noted some unfounded "fears" about such a body on the Nation blog. The
> proposed professional body is not in anyway intended to stop youngsters
> from coding solutions. Particularly because most major inventions in IT
> were done by student folks in Universities - who never belonged to any
> professional body.
> >
> > The main idea of the body is to provide a single-source of engagement
> with government, industry, civil society or any other group wishing to tap
> into a collective position on major ICT matters of public concern. Without
> this we are just a tower of (many) Babels - as noted by Ali.
> >
> > Meanwhile @Njogu, UK has indeed such a group
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Computer_Society. The US does not
> exactly have it but has the role catered for. Check out
> >
> >
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/PCAST/pcast_big_data_and_privacy_-_may_2014.pdf
> >
> > walu.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Wed, 5/7/14, Judy M. Muli via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?
> > To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 4:01 PM
> >
> > Hello,Lawrence, that sounds like
> > a serious research topic right  there; Concept paper
> > coming right up!With all the earlier mentioned
> > Professional institutions (ICPAK, Engineers, e.t.c) it
> > borders on Minimum necessary professional Qualifications,
> > Continuous professional development in the  sector, among
> > others;
> >  For starters we just need to identify the
> > Minimum necessary professional qualifications
> > : Kind
> > regards,Judy
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Lawrence Njogu via kictanet
> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Even in the
> > developed world, ICT does not have an internationally
> > accepted lobby group or aggregation body of knowledge. The
> > first step would be to clearly define the core body of
> > knowledge outlining the foundational knowledge for specific
> > subject domain(s) or professions with ICT. They would
> > outline a set of "core" knowledge underlying the
> > specialist or specialty
> > knowledge within ICT. Then you could possibly have an
> > umbrella body that brings the various domains into a
> > congregate/communal lobby group.
> >
> > Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 18:37:38
> > +0300
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for
> > the ICT professionals in Kenya?
> >
> > CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > To: lnjogu at hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > Its not so easy like lawyers or
> > doctors as ict proffessionals dobt have a core trade. Is
> > there a single set of skklls that an ICT proffessional
> > requires that he can operate with without
> > specialization?
> >
> > On May 6, 2014 4:29 PM, "Ali Hussein via
> > kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Grace
> > Thanks for bringing this
> > up.
> > Walu, thanks for
> > the thoughtful piece. Indeed its a major issue. I'm not
> > sure whether we need regulation or a lobby group. Or both?
> > There are various moribund associations that purport to
> > represent ICT in the country. And some new ones that seem to
> > be getting some traction.
> >
> >
> > Maybe that's why the
> > government doesn't listen to us? We are a Tower of
> > Babel?
> > Regards
> >
> > Ali
> > Hussein
> >
> >
> > +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
> >
> > Twitter:
> > @AliHKassim
> > Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
> >
> > Blog: www.alyhussein.com
> >
> >
> > "I
> > fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The
> > world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert
> > Einstein
> > Sent
> > from my iPad
> >
> >
> > On May 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Grace
> > Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The
> > lawyers have the Law Society of
> > Kenya (LSK),
> > the engineers have the Engineers Board
> > of Kenya (EBK)
> > the doctors have the Kenya
> > Medical Practitioners and Dentist Board,
> > the media professionals have the Media Council
> > of Kenya while
> > the accountants have ICPAK.
> > But who speaks for the ICT professionals in
> > Kenya?
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html
> >
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> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
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