<p>Hijacking your thought/thread...</p>
<p>Just noted a comment by Aliko Dangote (a Nigerian Billionaire) that he needs a visa to 38 countries, which means an American has more access into Africa than he does.</p>
<p>Israeli culture tends to invent/produce new ways of doing things. When look for establishments (multinationals designed to work in foreign nations) instead if innovations (localized solutions) we fail to cause positive change in our society.</p>
<p>From my point of view, Kenyan IT Professionals in Management should stop ruining their future prospects (handling mega projects and becoming company shareholders) by favoring foreigners who would not ordinarily do coffee or lunch with them.</p>
<p>Note: Alcohol tends to be an addiction which brings people together when they are looking to unwind (not to produce), so it does not apply here.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Murigi / Stanley Muraya</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 7, 2014 6:31 PM, "Lawrence Njogu via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Walu,<br>The white paper that you referenced is a good example of how a congregation of various advocacy groups ( aka special interests) work together to influence policies and/or public opinion in the US. I am very familiar on how it works here in Washington, DC. So, the most important aspect is how the different specialist groups within ICT decide to bond to pursue a common interest. <br>
<br><div>> Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 07:24:25 -0700<br>> CC: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:lnjogu@hotmail.com" target="_blank">lnjogu@hotmail.com</a><br>> <br>> @Judy,<br>
> <br>> +1<br>> <br>> I noted some unfounded "fears" about such a body on the Nation blog. The proposed professional body is not in anyway intended to stop youngsters from coding solutions. Particularly because most major inventions in IT were done by student folks in Universities - who never belonged to any professional body.<br>
> <br>> The main idea of the body is to provide a single-source of engagement with government, industry, civil society or any other group wishing to tap into a collective position on major ICT matters of public concern. Without this we are just a tower of (many) Babels - as noted by Ali.<br>
> <br>> Meanwhile @Njogu, UK has indeed such a group <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Computer_Society" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Computer_Society</a>. The US does not exactly have it but has the role catered for. Check out <br>
> <br>> <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/PCAST/pcast_big_data_and_privacy_-_may_2014.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/PCAST/pcast_big_data_and_privacy_-_may_2014.pdf</a><br>
> <br>> walu.<br>> <br>> --------------------------------------------<br>> On Wed, 5/7/14, Judy M. Muli via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for the ICT professionals in Kenya?<br>> To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2014, 4:01 PM<br>> <br>> Hello,Lawrence, that sounds like<br>> a serious research topic right there; Concept paper<br>> coming right up!With all the earlier mentioned<br>> Professional institutions (ICPAK, Engineers, e.t.c) it<br>
> borders on Minimum necessary professional Qualifications,<br>> Continuous professional development in the sector, among<br>> others;<br>> For starters we just need to identify the<br>> Minimum necessary professional qualifications<br>
> : Kind<br>> regards,Judy <br>> <br>> <br>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Lawrence Njogu via kictanet<br>> <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Even in the<br>> developed world, ICT does not have an internationally<br>> accepted lobby group or aggregation body of knowledge. The<br>> first step would be to clearly define the core body of<br>
> knowledge outlining the foundational knowledge for specific<br>> subject domain(s) or professions with ICT. They would<br>> outline a set of "core" knowledge underlying the<br>> specialist or specialty<br>
> knowledge within ICT. Then you could possibly have an<br>> umbrella body that brings the various domains into a<br>> congregate/communal lobby group.<br>> <br>> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 18:37:38<br>> +0300<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who speaks for<br>> the ICT professionals in Kenya?<br>> <br>> CC: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>> From: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:lnjogu@hotmail.com" target="_blank">lnjogu@hotmail.com</a><br>> <br>> <br>> Its not so easy like lawyers or<br>> doctors as ict proffessionals dobt have a core trade. Is<br>> there a single set of skklls that an ICT proffessional<br>
> requires that he can operate with without<br>> specialization?<br>> <br>> On May 6, 2014 4:29 PM, "Ali Hussein via<br>> kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> Grace<br>> Thanks for bringing this<br>> up. <br>> Walu, thanks for<br>> the thoughtful piece. Indeed its a major issue. I'm not<br>> sure whether we need regulation or a lobby group. Or both?<br>
> There are various moribund associations that purport to<br>> represent ICT in the country. And some new ones that seem to<br>> be getting some traction.<br>> <br>> <br>> Maybe that's why the<br>
> government doesn't listen to us? We are a Tower of<br>> Babel?<br>> Regards <br>> <br>> Ali<br>> Hussein<br>> <br>> <br>> +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113<br>> <br>> Twitter:<br>
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> <br>> <br>> "I<br>> fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The<br>> world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert<br>> Einstein<br>> Sent<br>> from my iPad<br>
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