[kictanet] Orange to exit, CS to yank the NOFBI contract from orange

Tue Mar 25 19:06:38 EAT 2014

KPLC had concrete plans in this direction a number of years ago and at some
point even got sued for earlier efforts (I could be wrong though).

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/-/539550/854476/-/14wl29rz/-/index.html

Kind regards,

Muchiri Nyaggah
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com> wrote:

> I suspect KPLC will mainly focus on supplying capacity to ISPs, I doubt
> they will have a retail push anytime soon.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Charles Kimani <ckimani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @James,
>>
>> The questions you quote vis à vis KPLC are valid.
>>
>> I am sure they are similar to the questions Safaricom had to answer when
>> deciding to go into banking business (M-PESA) - Only that the ICT
>> regulatory regime is much easier compared to banking.
>>
>> It's all about opportunities and their "hunger" for it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Charles
>>  On 25 Mar 2014 15:55, "James Mbugua" <jgmbugua at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> KPLC has those plans long term. THe question is whether to create a new
>>> subsidiary or not given their core business is electricity distribution and
>>> the fiber business differs in several ways: 1. Different regulator 2.
>>> Different competitive landscape (Elec is a monopoly) 3. Requires different
>>> sets of competencies and so on.
>>>
>>> But you are right, KP is a legitimate challenger as is
>>> KBC/Multichoice/SIGNET.
>>>
>>> Back to Orange - THese guys have been asleep...incurable sleep!
>>>
>>> Internet to the home alone could have been fetching them billions with
>>> control of NOFBI and a large urban landline network.
>>>
>>> Kileleshwa for example would have been easy pickings for them connecting
>>> up the whole place as it was being built.
>>>
>>> I think the faster they are kicked out the better. We have no need for
>>> their antics of asset stripping, company devaluing .
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Ngigi I also think Kenya power is sitting on an extremely lucrative
>>>> opportunity. They have dark fiber allover yet they don't deploy to the
>>>> households. If every building connected to the mains also had a fiber
>>>> connection dropped to it then Kenya Power would be the defacto broadband
>>>> infrastructure provider. They could then carve up the regions and auction
>>>> them to the likes of Zuku, JTL or Access Kenya. Or be the provider
>>>> themselves through a wholly owned subsidiary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The way I see it, I doubt anyone can come from outside and solve the
>>>>> issues with OrangeKE/Telkom.
>>>>>
>>>>> The solution as to how it could be revived to a top notch contender
>>>>> would have to come from within.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking inwards, the one firm that could have the Synergies and muscle
>>>>> to take it to Safcom in my best bet would be KPLC!
>>>>>
>>>>> They understand infrastructure,  they understand last mile, they
>>>>> understand how to distribute electricity, they could make a play for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I know we have the blackouts, but we could work on that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>>>>
>>>>> Alliance Technologies
>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>>
>>>>> www.A1.io
>>>>> On 25 Mar 2014 13:07, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think its about time the Govt kicked them out. All they do is
>>>>>> whine and sit on assets e.g NOFBI, iPhone, plenty of Land, only existing
>>>>>> landline network, etc. I would have thought e would la Fiber where there is
>>>>>> now copper but they would rather ask for more money from the Govt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Uganda, MTN wants to purchase Orange, that's confirmed, not sure
>>>>>>> about rest of Africa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any truth to the rumours that MTN might take over Orange's
>>>>>>>> operations in Africa?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, S.M. Muraya <
>>>>>>>> murigi.muraya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Orange persisted in enforcing bandwidth caps even on ADSL losing
>>>>>>>>> business to Zuku (Wimax and Fiber) which did not insist such bandwidth caps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trust local shareholders + new local investors will get a Kenyan
>>>>>>>>> CEO/Business Leader to sort out Telkom Kenya.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Think of Uchumi supermarkets and how it recovered under sound
>>>>>>>>> *Kenyan* leadership :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control
>>>>>>>>> than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African
>>>>>>>>>> market by end of the year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice
>>>>>>>>>> that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it
>>>>>>>>>> should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a
>>>>>>>>>> partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read
>>>>>>>>>> the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much
>>>>>>>>>> confetti..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? Will it be collapsed into
>>>>>>>>>> the new proposed PPP for infrastructure? I'm sure the industry will be
>>>>>>>>>> following this with interest.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Orange-exit-set-to-rock-telcom-market/-/1950946/2256276/-/format/xhtml/-/7wvdim/-/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The
>>>>>>>>>> world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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