[kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014

S.M. Muraya murigi.muraya at gmail.com
Wed Jun 25 12:46:14 EAT 2014


Walu,

No pun intended, but maybe Isaca.or.ke should ask for or organize a seminar
for the public officials behind the bill.

Per diems for a local event may be less than those for attending
International seminars but may win some goodwill around the same.
On Jun 25, 2014 12:18 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> True that @Chuksjonia,
>
> Am not sure if one of the leading global Info-Security organisations
> www.ISACA.org with a Kenyan chapter @   www.isaca.or.ke  having over
> 1,000 registered IS professionals was involved.
>
> If not, what a wasted opportunity to harvest local knowledge to address
> local challenges.
>
> walu.
>
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> On Wed, 6/25/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
>  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>  Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:38 AM
>
>  Just wondering, which
>  Information Risks / Information Security
>  consultants, were the stakeholders when this
>  bill was getting
>  prepared.
>
>
>
>
>  On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007
>  via kictanet
>  <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > James, ,
>  Listers
>  > I hope that the policy document
>  which informed the drafting of the Bill will
>  > also be made available so that the public
>  can participate meaningfully while
>  >
>  discussing the Bill.
>  > Does any lister
>  recall public consultation on such a policy?
>  >
>  > John Kariuki
>  >
>  > Sent from Samsung
>  Mobile
>  >
>  > --------
>  Original message --------
>  > From: James
>  Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  > Date:
>  > To: ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk
>  > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and
>  Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
>  >
>  > Although I have not read this Bill, I
>  believe that there is something
>  >
>  fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during its
>  development. Law
>  > enforcement agencies,
>  the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not
>  > be allowed to initiate laws. They are
>  likely to trample on the citizen's
>  >
>  rights by making laws that make their job  easier. How come
>  that government
>  > agencies have a legal
>  mandate to develop policy and  its implementing
>  > instruments (legislation and
>  regulations)  are silent on this matter? Where
>  > are these bodies  Law Reform Commission,
>  National Communication Secretariat,
>  > ICT
>  Authority,KIPPRA, etc.
>  > Prof. James
>  Kulubi
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  --------------------------------------------
>  > On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet
>  <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > Subject:
>  [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
>  > To: jkulubi at yahoo.co.uk
>  > Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  > Victor,
>  >
>  > The Nation article says that, Courts in
>  the country will
>  > soon have jurisdiction
>  to try any Kenyan
>  > citizen who commits
>  an offence anywhere in the world if the
>  >
>  Cybercrime
>  > and Computer Crimes Bill,
>  2014 becomes law.
>  >
>  >
>  A copy of the
>  > bill will be helpful for
>  all those interested. Anyone with
>  > that
>  bill kindly avail it.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  Regards
>  >
>  >
>  > Gideon Rop
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > There was a story in
>  the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime
>  >
>  targets all
>  >
>  >
>  Kenyans -
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
> http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosecution/-/1056/2352702/-/9djlz/-/index.html
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Can someone share a
>  copy of the bill?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  Victor Kapiyo, LL.B
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  ====================================================
>  >
>  > *"Your
>  > attitude, not your aptitude, will
>  determine your
>  > altitude" Zig
>  >
>  > Ziglar*
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