[kictanet] Security Situation in Kenya

S.M. Muraya murigi.muraya at gmail.com
Mon Jun 16 19:43:46 EAT 2014


No doubt after the terrorists attacked  the police station and stole
weapons, other police hesitated in confronting the perpetrators.

It is what we get for mixing bad local politics and violent religion.
Gichuki,

These are questions that are also very troubling to me.

If you think about it, the British Consulate in Mombasa, maybe the oldest
consulate was closed last week amid terrorism fears. This not from any
other Country, but UK, one country that has arguably the largest investment
in Kenya, where a decision like that is not taken lightly.

And not even a week later, we get hit at Mpeketoni. Now, we might not have
been able to stop it, but the least we would have done, having gotten the
signals from our friends who were closing their Consulates at the coast, is
to have been very well prepared.

I am told these guys hit at 20:00hrs and up until morning hours when they
left no one had arrived to counter them. Yet, from the word go, the
communication about the attack was all over, including social media. If
this sounds familiar, its exactly what happened at Westgate.

I don't know what school you would have gone to if after these two
very-similiar attacks you can recommend that our terrorism problems are
quickly sorted by using an upgraded technology network.

IMO, it is time we talked the truth and called a spade a spade, starting
with the fact that what has been recommended thus far is a white elephant
and what we need more is more motivated & dedicated cops topped of with
good leadership and quality intelligence.

Rgds


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <
chuksjonia at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ask yourself, why did US embassy shut down before this, and why did UK
> Embassy do the same last week?
>
> Did they get this information earlier?
>
> How did they get it?
>
>
>
> On 6/16/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
> > Phares,
> >
> > Even saying "...this is not a technology problem ..." can be quite the
> > answer to the problem.
> >
> > One of the problems I am seeing with the recent trend is where there is
> > this belief that once this 3G, 4G, 5G etc police network gets up, we will
> > have gotten to the root of the problem. Its the classic case of having
> the
> > only tool being a hammer, and no wonder the solution is Networks.
> >
> > IMO, you would probably get more bang for your buck if you put half of
> the
> > Ksh 15B budget into human intelligence i.e buying information from
> > informants than through spending it on to getting real-time images from
> our
> > cities.
> >
> > Rgds
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Phares Kariuki via kictanet <
> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not convinced it's a technology issue, rather a lack of will. We've
> >> got people who benefit from the lack of security (ivory trade, drugs
> >> etc),
> >> so the government is not incentivised to fight crime in general. What
> the
> >> government fails to realise is that petty crime finances larger crimes.
> >> Al
> >> Shabaab does not have an investment bank where they can get a
> convertible
> >> note to finance a terror attack, it can't really list on the NSE. They
> >> traffic drugs, ivory etc. The solution is a thorough crack down on crime
> >> which generally tends to provide the intelligence bodies with much
> needed
> >> intel. We can't eat our cake and have it too. The government seems to
> >> think
> >> that they can have lax security policy and still somehow secure the
> >> country.
> >>
> >> We additionally need to look at who is in charge of security policy.
> It's
> >> absurd to have someone who thinks that a crack down on tint (an illegal
> >> crack down no less) is in charge of the police force. The individual
> >> charged with enforcing the law does not understand or respect the law.
> >> The
> >> internal security minister is, frankly, clueless. We've got no cohesive
> >> security policy.
> >>
> >> Crime has always been an issue. You might have technology, but it's
> worth
> >> precious little if it takes the armed forces 4-5 hours to respond, or if
> >> they will try and shake down the terrorist for bribes. A lot of this
> >> technology was not there in the eighties, nineties and noughties.
> >>
> >> At this point, there is a shortage of police because they are busy
> >> washing
> >> cars in the judiciary or guarding "VIP's". There is a shortage of police
> >> cars because every "VIP" gets a chase car to ensure that they are
> >> insulated
> >> from their policy failures (traffic, insecurity etc). The state at this
> >> point does not really care about the citizen and it's primary concern is
> >> extracting the citizen (corporate included) to finance rent seekers who
> >> have no economic value. Our taxes keep increasing and because the state
> >> has
> >> a monopoly on violence, we are not really allowed to question how the
> >> state
> >> mis-uses our taxes.
> >>
> >> What we have is not a technology problem but rather general failure of
> an
> >> arm of government.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <
> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Kenyan Government needs to install the concept of Command, Control,
> >>> Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and
> >>> Reconnaissance "C4ISR", like the US and Israel did. The youth are
> >>> capable of helping in such an initiative, and the Govt needs to use
> >>> the youth instead of denying them projects, when we are the ones who
> >>> know how to write applications, use computer networks to implement ICT
> >>> Products that cant effectively and efficiently help Kenyan Security
> >>>
> >>> ./Chucks
> >>>
> >>> On 6/16/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Listers,
> >>> >
> >>> > In case you might not have heard, there has been a very serious
> >>> > security
> >>> > breach that has occurred in Mpeketoni, Lamu that has so far claimed
> >>> close
> >>> > to 50 persons.
> >>> >
> >>> > The details on this are here
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://www.nation.co.ke/news/mpeketoni-Lamu-gunfire-al-shabaab-terrorism/-/1056/2349860/-/yf5qvgz/-/index.html
> >>> >
> >>> > To put this into context, Mpeketoni is the largest town, bar Lamu,
> >>> between
> >>> > the Somali Border and Malindi and the center of commercial activity
> in
> >>> the
> >>> > region.
> >>> >
> >>> > So, as much as a lot of us might not know it, the fact that
> Al-Shabbab
> >>> > could drive trucks full of fighters into such a town and commit these
> >>> > crimes and then leave should send all the security-bells that we have
> >>> > ringing.
> >>> >
> >>> > This is exactly how Boko Haram started in Nigeria and we are seeing
> it
> >>> > played out here right infront of us.
> >>> >
> >>> > I think its time that we spoke as the local ICT Community and came up
> >>> with
> >>> > a stand on what in our opinion needs to be done in ICT Terms to
> secure
> >>> this
> >>> > nation.
> >>> >
> >>> > As an example, it would actually be very irresponsible of us to let a
> >>> few
> >>> > gentlemen to come together and tell us the solution to our current
> >>> security
> >>> > problems, from an ICT perspective, is a police network deal that
> >>> > largely
> >>> > puts CCTV Cameras in Nairobi & Mombasa, when maybe nothing is being
> >>> spent
> >>> > to secure our porous borders as well as actual on-the-ground
> >>> intelligence
> >>> > collection.
> >>> >
> >>> > We could send this as a proposal to the powers that be as well as the
> >>> > parliamentary ICT Committee and hope, nay, push, until something gets
> >>> done.
> >>> > The way I see this working is, we draft a document, brief and simple
> >>> with
> >>> > what our recommendations are, then Listers can comment on it. If
> >>> > largely
> >>> > agreeable, we send it to the powers that be.
> >>> >
> >>> > Let me now what your thoughts are, and we could see what we can do
> >>> > about
> >>> > this.
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > *Regards,*
> >>> >
> >>> > *Wait**haka Ngigi*
> >>> > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
> >>> > Building
> >>> > T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254
> >>> 737 811
> >>> > 000
> >>> > www.at.co.ke
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P
> >>> I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
> >>> jgichuki at inbox d0t com
> >>>
> >>> {FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
> >>> http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Warm Regards,
> >>
> >> Phares Kariuki
> >>
> >> *E*: pkariuki at gmail.com | *Twitter*: kaboro |* Skype*: kariukiphares |
> >> *B*
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Regards,*
> >
> > *Wait**haka Ngigi*
> > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
> > Building
> > T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737
> 811
> > 000
> > www.at.co.ke
> >
>
>
> --
> --
> Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P
> I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
> jgichuki at inbox d0t com
>
> {FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
> http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
>



-- 
*Regards,*

*Wait**haka Ngigi*
Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building
T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737 811
000
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