[kictanet] Beba Pay card and national biometric registration: The big brother syndrome

Sun Jul 13 17:24:41 EAT 2014

NYC, Hong Kong, Cape Town, Vienna all require cards.  The cards can be
bought with cash or credit card.

Istanbul also has tokens but it's the same thing, cash or credit card.

Now that I think of it, I can't think of an urban transport system that
takes cash/coins anymore.

As far as tracking, NY did that successfully where they let people out of
prison, gave them marked metrocards, and then used the card to figure out
where accomplices they were looking for might be.  Here's one of the
stories on this type of thing:

http://nypost.com/2005/11/15/card-trick-cops-track-fire-perv-on-subway-exclusive-fare-game-police-hunt-fire-fake-by-metrocard/

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On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Sean Moroney via kictanet <
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> Hi Mark,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+seanm=
> aitecafrica.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mark Elkins via
> kictanet
> Sent: 13 July 2014 12:17
> To: Sean Moroney
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Beba Pay card and national biometric registration:
> The big brother syndrome
>
> In South Africa, in order to use the Gautrain, you need to purchase a
> Gautrain Card and then put credit on it.
>
> The Card itself is about R10 ($1). It contains no personal ID information.
> However, I presume a fair number of people add credit straight from their
> Credit Card... so it's technically possible to track the Identity of the
> Card to the person who buys the credit. The same Gautrain card is also used
> to enter/exit the railway parking garages. No idea if cameras are used in
> the transaction. (The parking Entry/Exit camera's at OT Airport *do* record
> your car registration - so the entry ticket number plate has to match the
> same registration plates on exit - ie Number Plate recognition is in use.)
>
> Anyway - the Gautrain is technically Cashless - except "recharge"
> systems are available to top up your cards at the station entrance.
>
>
> On Sun, 2014-07-13 at 09:31 +0000, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote:
> > Let’s start with the much hyped “beba pay” system. Having travelled
> > numerously to America, Canada, South Africa and a few countries in
> > Europe, I must inform Kenyans that they have been duped. No country in
> > the world has imposed restrictions on their citizens using cash money
> > to pay for transport services.
> >
> >
> >
> > Track your every move
> >
> >
> > The only thing that is done with regard to enforcing the use of cards
> > is that special discounts are offered to those who pay using their
> > cards.
> >
> >
> > The truth is that the government will track your every move from now
> > henceforth since all the cards are connected to a central data base
> > system. What if some corrupt government official sells the said
> > information to thugs; will they not be able to track your every move?
> >
> >
> > http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Beba-Pay-card-and-national-biomet
> > ric-registration/-/440808/2381900/-/12latj2/-/index.html
> >
> >
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