[kictanet] Matiang’i rules out Safaricom reprieve from licence terms
Kivuva
Kivuva at transworldafrica.com
Thu Jan 9 21:28:34 EAT 2014
Thanks Wambua.
That makes sense. 0.2% of 50billion is 100million.
On 09/01/2014, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua at cck.go.ke> wrote:
> The penalties for poor QoS have been enhanced from KES 500,000 to 0.2% of
> the gross annual turnover of the non-performing network.
>
> The new penalties shall come into effect next year. The enhanced penalties
> should serve as a deterrent.
>
> Wambua
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>
> From: James Kariuki
> Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2014 20:14 PM
> To: Wambua, Christopher
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Matiang’i rules out Safaricom reprieve from licence
> terms
>
>
> Using your analogy at @Walu, CCK then needs to act and behave like the late
> Michuki when he was Transport Minister.
>
> --James
>
>
> On 9 January 2014 16:37, Walubengo J
> <jwalu at yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> True that @Kimani,
>
> More Revenue should lead to subsequent investments in expanding the Network
> Capacity - ideally(theoretically). But reality is different.
>
> Assume you bought a 14-seater Matatu (bus) and the passenger demand is so
> high that you always carry above the specs -i.e around 20 passengers in the
> 14-seater. How long will it take it you upgrade to a 28-seater matatu? 1yr,
> 2yr, 5yrs, when govt tells you to?
>
> The correct answer is as soon as you start losing the "seated" customers.
> As long as the seated (existing) and the joining customers are NOT leaving
> the matatu (network), you will not bother to expand it. Why should you when
> you are making twice the money expected to be made from the 14-seater?
>
> Strictly speaking, in a free market economy even the government cannot force
> you to expand your matatu (Network). Only the customers can...and if the
> customers are not (leaving), find out why and fix that. My hypothesis is
> that the market is broken. Fix the market and the quality issues will fix
> themselves.
>
> walu.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 1/9/14, Antony Kimani
> <kimanianthoni at gmail.com<mailto:kimanianthoni at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Matiang’i rules out Safaricom reprieve from licence
> terms
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 12:46 PM
>
> @Walubengo
> IMHO the more the customers the higher the revenue
> suffericon should have invested more on infrastucture for
> quality improvement as the customer numbers grew.
>
> BR
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at
> 12:37 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com<mailto:adam at varud.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I don't see any methodology section in that
> report. Is this evaluation using standard methods? If
> so, what are the actual methods used by CCK to generate the
> numbers?
>
>
> --Kili.io -
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> About
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>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at
> 12:31 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
> Adam,
>
>
>
> I did send the report link in an earlier post. It was @
>
>
>
> http://www.cck.go.ke/consumers/other_info/downloads/REPORT_ON_THE_QUALITY_OF_SERVICE_2012-2013.pdf
>
>
>
>
>
> The only problem I have is that CCK might be looking at
> Quality in isolation. In an ideal situation, the increased
> No. of subscribers would put pressure on the Safaricom
> Network such that its Quality would deteriorate (which has
> happened) and subsequently force subscribers to ran away to
> better quality networks (which has NOT happened). If
> Safaricom customers had moved to other networks, this would
> force Safaricom to naturally improve its Quality (read:
> invest in Network Capacity Expansion in tandem with
> increased Subscriber numbers).
>
>
>
>
>
> Reading the riot act to Safaricom is not sufficient to
> warrant Quality improvement. The departure of its customers
> would.
>
>
>
> So if I was the DG of CCK, I would be working on the WHY are
> the suffering -sorry - Safaricom ustomers like me NOT
> moving? Sort that out, and the quality equation will be
> resolved.
>
>
>
> walu.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Thu, 1/9/14, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com<mailto:adam at varud.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Matiang’i rules out Safaricom
> reprieve from licence terms
>
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com>
>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
>
> Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 11:36 AM
>
>
>
> Where is the report?
>
> All I see is a press release with no
>
> report:
>
> http://cck.go.ke/news/2013/Mobile_operators_fail.html
>
>
>
>
>
> And a broken link for the 'Publications &
>
> Statistics' section:
>
> http://cck.go.ke/resc/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa:
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>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at
>
> 11:26 AM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com<mailto:jgmbugua at gmail.com>>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Adam,
>
> It might help if you read the CCK report itself
>
> on their website.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at
>
> 11:23 AM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com<mailto:adam at varud.com>>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I guess the US regulators would step in about
>
> voice quality if it was bad in certain areas that the
> market
>
> wouldn't want to serve. The theory would be that
> the
>
> spectrum is a public asset licensed to the vendor in
> order
>
> to further the public good - and that part of the license
>
> terms are to satisfy the public good.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is why the US landline regulators force
>
> telephone companies to service very rural areas at the
> same
>
> price as more economically efficient urban
>
> areas.
>
> If CCK was saying that all of the operators
>
> needed to put masts in Turkana as part of a public good,
>
> that would be one thing. But just saying that voice
>
> quality is low in general and not backing it up with how
>
> that compares to international standards (they surely
> exist
>
> and the article discusses that Safaricom passed such
>
> international tests) seems like a pretty weak argument to
>
> me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Of course, the writing in the Business Daily
>
> article is so muddled that it's hard to tell
> what's
>
> actually going on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Thu,
>
> Jan 9, 2014 at 11:14 AM, James Mbugua
> <jgmbugua at gmail.com<mailto:jgmbugua at gmail.com>>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Adam,
>
> Is it standard in other countries or is the QoS a
>
> Kenyan/CCK feature? Then it might be a
>
> shakedown.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Adam Nelson
> <adam at varud.com<mailto:adam at varud.com>>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This seems like a shakedown to me.
>
> Everybody I know gets Safaricom if they can
>
> afford it (otherwise Airtel). The market can handle
>
> quality problems and the CCK can help by educating the
> local
>
> markets (i.e. local radio spots discussing carrier
> quality
>
> in each market).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --Kili.io -
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9,
>
> 2014 at 11:07 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com>>
>
> wrote:
>
>
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>
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> ICT secretary Fred Matiang’i has vowed to tie the
> renewal
>
> of Safaricom’s licence to the voice quality checks that
>
> show the mobile phone operator is non-compliant.
>
>
>
> Dr Matiang’i said the government and the Communications
>
> Commission of Kenya (CCK) will not negotiate on the voice
>
> quality standards.
>
>
>
> ....
>
>
>
> “I don’t understand why an operator would like to
>
> negotiate a licence condition. There are only two options
>
> here, either comply or step out of the business,” Dr
>
> Matiang’i told the Business Daily on the sidelines of
> the
>
> launch of the electronic filling of returns by insurers
> to
>
> the Insurance Regulatory Authority.
>
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>
> Check more @
> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Safaricom-licence-terms/-/539550/2139198/-/uvyr23/-/index.html
>
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> ---
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>
>
> my comment? - Safaricom "ina weneyewe"
>
> translation for the international viewers
> "Safaricom
>
> has its owners" :-)
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