[kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication

Wed Sep 18 08:21:27 EAT 2013

+1 Gilda,

There is a lot of benefit in placing transparency and opennes of processes.
This determines just how best a project or process perfoms in the future.
When transparency exists, then accountability becomes a factor that is
managable and therefore the future of that initiative is then adequately
protected.

Gideon Rop
DotConnectAfrica

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:35 PM, <kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote:

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> From: "Gilda Odera" <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
> To: "'Fred Matiangi'" <fredmatiangi at gmail.com>
> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> Dear Dr.Matiangi,
>
> I truly appreciate your response and it is encouraging to hear of your
> commitment to this sector. I understand transition issues are never too
> easy
> and wish you the very best as everything unfolds.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Gilda Odera
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Matiangi [mailto:fredmatiangi at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:34 PM
> To: Gilda Odera
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> Communication
>
> Gilda and all listers,
>  I have been keenly following all discussions in this forum on the ICTA and
> have heard you-really. I can promise you, without any hesitation that we
> will all Endeavour to do the right thing. I will extensively address the
> matter of the governance of the ICT sector and the role we think ICTA
> should
> play. As you all know, transitions are very momentous and often disruptive.
> We are going through one and we are committed to navigate through it with
> enough precision, care and focus on institutionalizing the management of
> the
> ICT sector. As consultations within and without government continue on this
> matter, I appreciate the views expressed in this and other forums and look
> forward  continued discussion and collaboration with all interested.
> Fred
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:55 AM, "Gilda Odera" <godera at skyweb.co.ke> wrote:
>
> > Listers,
> >
> > I assume that the CS and other powers that be are reading these comments.
> I
> > wish to urge them, for the sake of this industry which we all know is key
> to
> > the development of this nation, to do what is right. The ICT Authority
> > requires goodwill of industry players and the best of the best to propel
> > this industry to great heights. This means having an open process of
> > selection where the most suitable candidate will emerge amongst others.
> Some
> > of those names being touted are indeed very capable but the CS would be
> > doing them injustice if he simply handpicked anyone. Let he/she who is
> > worthy of the job stand up and present himself/herself in a transparent
> > competitive process. I believe a full enlightened board consisting of
> > knowledgable and dedicated persons (not simply well connected ones
> please)
> > should be in place before the CEO is picked. And if it is a different
> panel
> > interviewing, it really must consist of persons well versed. We must
> break
> > away from past practices where a CEO of a parastatal has no respect nor
> time
> > for the board he/she reports to simply because of owing allegiance to an
> > individual who appointed him/her. This is what ails organizations and in
> the
> > end you find poor performance and a decline or collapse of an entire
> sector
> > simply due to in-fighting and insubordination.
> > I am keenly watching how this will transpire. I would like to believe the
> > new government is serious about developing this industry and will
> therefore
> > do the right thing.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gilda Odera
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> > Communication
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> > + 1
> >
> >
> > Edwin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >   1. Re: Row simmers over order on new Information, Communication
> >      and Technology leadership (Brian Munyao Longwe)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:03:10 +0300
> > From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
> > To: Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
> > Cc: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>,
> >    "isoc at orion.my.co.ke" <isoc at orion.my.co.ke>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> >    Communication and Technology leadership
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> >
> > Interesting to note that in this whole discussion no one seems to
> > mention/consider that ICTA is an amalgamation of KICT Board, Department
> of
> > e-Government and the Government Information Technology Services (GITS).
> If
> > continuity is the focus, aren't the heads of any of the other
> > agencies/departments also potential candidates?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Mblayo
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Mr. Walubengo, in broad daylight you are advocating we do a kangaroo
> >> shortlisting, interview, and appointment. :)
> >>
> >> Why would anybody want to participate in the process with the end
> >> result already known?
> >>
> >> ______________________
> >> Mwendwa Kivuva
> >> twitter.com/lordmwesh
> >> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6 September 2013 09:12, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> **Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote,
> >>>
> >>> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in
> >>> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of
> > the law.
> >>> ~~~~~~~
> >>> The unilateral appointment would indeed be "legal" as it is enshrined
> >>> in the Legal notice. However, the clever lawyers would not be
> >>> challenging the appointment (since it would be legal), but they would
> >>> be challenging whether it is constitutional to "legalize" such an
> >>> action of appointing without inviting other Kenyans to
> >>> apply...(discrimination)
> >>>
> >>> Remember that the constitution is the supreme law and any other
> >>> law(Act, Legal Notice, Regulation, etc) that is contradictory to it
> >>> is null and void.  Am not a lawyer but I think that is where the
> >>> court battle would be about. In the likely event that the courts find
> >>> that the legal notice is in violation of the constitution, then by
> >>> extension the appointment becomes null and void.
> >>>
> >>> Problem is that this would take time and meanwhile whoever is
> >>> appointed is likely to have his/her hands tied up and cannot transact
> >>> ICT Authority business. Thats why I said, why bother with the risks?
> >>> Just advertise the job, go through the motions and safely arrive at the
> > same destination.
> >>>
> >>> We did this successfully for our Cabinet Sec and PS, I still dont
> >>> understand why it should become difficult for a  CEO  :-)
> >>>
> >>> walu.
> >>>  ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
> >>>
> >>> *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com
> >>> *Cc:* "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2013 6:27 AM
> >>>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> >>> Communication and Technology leadership
> >>>
> >>> @Kivuva
> >>>
> >>> You are quite right.
> >>>
> >>> @Walu, I believe the correct phrase is '*The end justifies the
> >>> means'. :)
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> @John, that's just it...it's not illegal..it may be challenged in
> >>> court but it seems that the executive is acting within the confines of
> > the law.
> >>>
> >>> Ali Hussein
> >>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
> >>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
> >>>
> >>> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375
> >>>
> >>> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Because we know who is being targeted for this position, and we know
> >>> his attributes and leadership qualities, and we acknowledge this is
> >>> just a onetime appointment, why don't we discuss the merits and
> >>> de-merits of Dr. Victor Kyalo?
> >>>
> >>> I feel there is something members want to say but are being held back
> >>> by diplomacy.
> >>>
> >>> Lets remember as it has been stated here previously, anybody holding
> >>> this public office will still have to pass the test of LEADERSHIP and
> >>> INTEGRITY as envisioned in the constitution
> >>>
> >>> On 05/09/2013, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Listers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sometimes expediency requires that there is continuity and
> >>> institutional
> >>>
> >>> memory carry over to allow for a smooth transition.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In this particular case the Ag.CEO provides an excellent reason for
> this.
> >>> He
> >>>
> >>> has the expertise, experience, qualifications and the political
> >>> savvy ness
> >>>
> >>> to navigate this new monster called the ICTA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The CS may need to look at constituting a new board though.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I say let the new team move with expediency and judge it by the
> results.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ali Hussein
> >>>
> >>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
> >>>
> >>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Judy M. Muli" <judym.muli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Listers,
> >>>
> >>> What happened to the hookup, to discuss some of these issues and
> >>> forge a
> >>>
> >>> united front.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Judy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Grace Githaiga
> >>> <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Walu.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Great analysis. You are right about the need to avoid unnecessary
> >>>
> >>> litigation (read unnecessary negative publicity). Cofek already
> >>> posted
> >>>
> >>> the article on its site and you never know if it is considering
> >>> following
> >>>
> >>> up on the matter.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php/14-news/253-tired-talk-of-presidenti
> >>> al-executive-orders-and-unacceptable-plain-illegality-of-single-sourc
> >>> ed-ict-authority-boss
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I agree with you on the need to advertise this job and still get the
> >>>
> >>> "right man/woman" for it.  The CS should not allow the matter to be
> >>>
> >>> determined by the courts.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> May I suggest that you consider this topic for your Nation Blog next
> >>>
> >>> week? This 2010 Constitution. Argh!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rgds
> >>>
> >>> GG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 03:12:47 -0700
> >>>
> >>> From: jwalu at yahoo.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> >>>
> >>> Communication and Technology leadership
> >>>
> >>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> @GG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I see the comparison - and specifically the fact that the previous
> >>> CEO of
> >>>
> >>> the ICT Board was expected to be unilaterally selected by the Minister.
> >>>
> >>> However, that was then(2006/7). Fast-forward to today (2013) - with
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>> notable development of the new constitution (2010).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This thing (Constitution 2010) changed so much - even the President
> >>> today
> >>>
> >>> cannot do stuff his predecessors used to do over a game of
> golf/beer/etc.
> >>>
> >>> And so it would be the case for the Kenya ICT Authority - one cannot
> >>> just
> >>>
> >>> borrow a previous clause and paste it into a new, bigger and
> >>> different
> >>>
> >>> institution.  ICT Authority (2013) is miles apart from ICT board
> >>> (2007)
> >>>
> >>> in form, nature, scope and mandate.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> For example, ICT Board(2007) was an institution with an
> >>>
> >>> "administratively" limited ministerial scope -that is why other
> >>>
> >>> Ministries could afford to ignore them. Today the ICT Authority is an
> >>>
> >>> animal with sweeping powers that cut across Ministries and govt
> agencies.
> >>>
> >>> The CEO appointment therefore requires and is indeed given a more
> >>>
> >>> rigorous approach in the legal notice.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What raised the storm is why the need to exempt the 1st CEO from this
> >>>
> >>> rigorous approach? My unsolicited advise would be for the CS to
> >>> ignore
> >>>
> >>> the clause, advertise the job (open it  up for everyone) - and still
> >>> get
> >>>
> >>> (his?) the right man/woman for the job. After all, he has or can
> >>> create
> >>>
> >>> the required "magnanimity" (opposite of Tyranny :-)  of the numbers
> >>> in
> >>>
> >>> the Board.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The other route is vulnerable to too much and unnecessary litigation
> >>> that
> >>>
> >>> may cripple the ICT Authority for years before it gets started. E.g
> >>>
> >>> Someone can file a suit to determine whether the contentious clause
> >>> goes
> >>>
> >>> against the constitutional provision for non-discrimination. While
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>> suit is being determined ICT Authority will remain
> >>> crippled/handicapped
> >>>
> >>> for years.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> walu.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> >>>
> >>> Cc: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 2:41 PM
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> >>>
> >>> Communication and Technology leadership
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> @ Walu,
> >>>
> >>> For comparison purposes, see legal notice legal Notice 26 of 2007
> >>>
> >>> http://www.kenyalaw.org/klr/index.php?id=568 (STATE CORPORATION KENYA
> >>>
> >>> INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BOARD 2007)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> >>>
> >>> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >>>
> >>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> >>>
> >>> Communication and Technology leadership
> >>>
> >>> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:13:46 +0000
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Loise for sharing the legal notice.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> @ Yawe you are right. That is the nature of the notice. You do not
> >>> need
> >>>
> >>> to be subjected to public scrutiny:) (On a light note, it is a pity
> >>> since
> >>>
> >>> I would be interested to know your inside manenos).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> @ Brian, Walu, and Alice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have just skimmed through the notice and in matters of the ICT
> >>>
> >>> Authority appointments (both board and first CEO) it actually gives
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>> CS carte blanche. There may not be a row after all!  Maybe some
> >>> mischief
> >>>
> >>> at the drafting process of the notice which ensured that it ignored
> >>>
> >>> article 10 of the constitution which  lays emphasis on consulting in
> >>>
> >>> policy making processes. @ Kapiyo, @ Grace Bomu, what are your
> comments?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rgds
> >>>
> >>> GG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:58:31 +0100
> >>>
> >>> From: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> >>>
> >>> Communication and Technology leadership
> >>>
> >>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There goes my opportunity to be appointed without having to jump
> >>> through
> >>>
> >>> hoops that require me to answer questions from my questionable past.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Robert Yawe
> >>>
> >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> >>>
> >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> >>>
> >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> >>>
> >>> Kenya
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> >>>
> >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Monday, 2 September 2013, 15:02
> >>>
> >>> Subject: [kictanet] Row simmers over order on new Information,
> >>>
> >>> Communication and Technology leadership
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A row is simmering in the Ministry of Information, Communication and
> >>>
> >>> Technology over a law that gives the Cabinet secretary power to make
> >>>
> >>> unilateral appointment.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Executive Order No. 2 of 2013 by President Uhuru Kenyatta on the
> >>>
> >>> reorganisation of government that establishes the Information and
> >>>
> >>> Communications Technology Authority ( ICTA) gives the ICT Cabinet
> >>>
> >>> Secretary power to appoint the CEO of the authority without involving
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>> board.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000092541&story_title=row-
> >>> simmers-over-order-on-new-icta-leadership
> >>>
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> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:28:26 +0300
> From: Josiah Mugambi <josiah.mugambi at gmail.com>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority; Baptism without conversion
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> Hi,
>
> Just catching up on this discussion a bit late. A couple of questions that
> may serve to strengthen this case:
>
> - what are the reasons given for the seemingly limited participation of KE
> tech firms in govt projects. Skills? Support systems? Communication?
> Corruption?
> -
> - Do we have success stories - KE tech firms regularly doing business with
> gov?
>
> I currently serve as the iHub Exec Director where we represent ~11k
> developers, engineers, bloggers, creatives and others in the tech field and
> certainly would want to have a lot more tech business in govt taken up by
> local tech firms. The resources, talent is there.
>
> Josiah
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>
> > Listers
> >
> > These are cries in the wild.
> >
> > I am on record saying that up until we have a coherent and active
> > representative body in ICT our voices will not be heard.
> >
> > Ali Hussein
> >
> > +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
> >
> > "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall
> > but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Sep 16, 2013, at 3:30 PM, "Judy M. Muli" <judym.muli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Walu, Yawe, listers,
> >
> > My suggestion: we find time e.g as listers have quarterly meetings with
> > relevant ICTA top management and engage with solutions and sign MOU for
> > monitoring and evaluation. We can't give up, Kenya is bigger and greater.
> > E.g We need representatives from the listers in the uwezo fund, in the
> > ICTA board,
> >
> > These monies are our taxes, our family taxes, our neighbors taxes, and
> let
> > history not judge us harshly for twitting and listing complaints. Lets
> > engage before the dust settles and complicates the equations.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Judy
> >
> > On Monday, September 16, 2013, S.M. Muraya wrote:
> >
> >> Robert,
> >>
> >> Fortunately we do not have to fly to Singapore to gather basic
> >> intelligence on how to develop our nation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.ida.gov.sg/About-Us/Newsroom/Media-Releases/2013/Singapore-Government-Projected-to-Invest-1point-2-Billion-in-Infocomm-Technologies-to-Enhance-Operational-Efficiency-and-Public-Service-Delivery
> >>
> >> Note they speak of citizen participation (local app competitions) in the
> >> development of their systems.
> >>
> >> There are PDFs on the page worth careful reading and consideration.
> >>
> >> The way tendering is done in Kenya, is subject to debate and
> >> investigations.
> >>
> >> We are querying the ICC and will query World Bank "International
> >> Requirements" too.
> >>
> >> Cutting out Kenyan firms by requiring prior participation in
> >> multi-million dollar deals is not acceptable.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
> >>
> >> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
> >> who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:27 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Listers,
> >>>
> >>> It is with a heavy heart that I make this post as those involved are
> >>> close friends and acquaintances but what has to be done must be done.
> >>>
> >>> We recently had a lot of fanfare about the birth of the ICT Authority
> >>> and it was felt that they would bring a breath of fresh-air into the
> sector
> >>> but it seems that all we have is baptism without conversion which
> makes it
> >>> a truly PR activity whose only beneficiaries are the graphic designers
> who
> >>> will be paid for developing a new logo and printing new stationary.  I
> >>> expected better from the acting CEO in association with a new CS and
> PS in
> >>> the related ministry but it seems I expected too much too soon.
> >>>
> >>> The ICT Authorities first visible activity has been an advert placed in
> >>> the newspapers for the installation of an obsolete server (
> >>> http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/eserverp5/entry/550/) and
> >>> the delivery of an over priced solution that can easily be installed
> on the
> >>> CS's laptop not to mention that a similar application is currently
> >>> operational at transport ministry.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.tendersunlimited.co.ke/services/public-sector/ict-services/11613-ict-authoritynational-safety-and-transport-authority-tendersupply-installation-and-commissioning-transport-integrated-management-system-for-the-national-transport-and-safety-authority-ministry-of-transport-and-infrastructureclosing-date29102013.html
> >>>
> >>> To test the currently installed system send an SMS to 22456 with the
> >>> followin;
> >>>
> >>> 1.  Check vehicle registration details: type "MVR followed by your
> >>> vehicle registration number" e.g. "MVR KAP 162F"
> >>> 2.  Check driving license validity/details: type "DLR followed by your
> 6
> >>> digit driving license number"
> >>> 3.  Check TLB details: "TLB followed by the vehicle registration
> number"
> >>> 4.  Check vehichle inspection details: "type "INS followed by the
> >>> vehicle registration number"
> >>>
> >>> I would have expected that the authority would use this opportunity to
> >>> implement a truly radical and revolutionary solution that will not
> only meet
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