[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 77, Issue 97
Kiiru Njiiri
njiirikiiru at gmail.com
Tue Oct 15 16:34:11 EAT 2013
I agree with YAWE,MBA comes in quite handy for techies.Certifications are
relevant when you intend to specialise in a specific field like CCNA for
networking,CISA for information security.I have friends who have gone for
an MBA and MSC IT,which personally i believe can provide a competitive
edge.It is said that you should never stop learning so at some point one
can go for the certifications but would advice you to go for Masters.
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> 1. Re: Kenyan Govt stake in TKL (Tony Likhanga)
> 2. Re: Kenyan Govt stake in TKL (Tony Likhanga)
> 3. Re: [Skunkworks] Masters Degree Program: Is It Worth It?
> (Andrea Bohnstedt)
> 4. Re: [Skunkworks] Masters Degree Program: Is It Worth It?
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> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 15:34:44 +0300
> From: Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga at gmail.com>
> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenyan Govt stake in TKL
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> @David,
>
> There's a past BD article that mentioned the drop from 49% to 39%.
> Apparently it's in the finer details of some MoU.
>
>
> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/MPs+say+Kenya+lost+Sh30+billion+in+Telkom+deal+/-/539546/1970470/-/item/0/-/cfsw31/-/index.html
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> Tony.
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> From: Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga at gmail.com>
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> Addendum : The BD article has some links to related news. One of them
> seems to answer your
> query.<
> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/France+Telecom+closes+door+on+Treasury/-/539550/1916088/-/jwy5ao/-/index.html
> >
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>
> "The government?s stake in Telkom Kenya stood at 49 per cent in November,
> but dropped to 40 per cent in December following a Sh34 billion balance
> sheet restructuring plan.
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> This further dropped to 30 per cent in June after the Treasury failed to
> raise Sh2.4 billion for the cash call."
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> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> To: Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Masters Degree Program: Is It
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> I enjoyed doing my Masters: it was a great break to hear myself think again
> after working like a donkey for a year and a half after my first degree. I
> learned a lot - having to do class presentations, discussions and essays
> really helped me shape my thinking. I also did it in a city I love a lot,
> and met a bunch of great people.
>
> But I am not an IT professional, so you may look at different priorities. I
> think you'd need to ask yourself if you're after strictly technical
> qualifications - then a certification may be more useful.
>
>
> On 15 October 2013 14:58, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>
> > In my opinion, people pursue Masters for the paper value and the bragging
> > rights. If you really needed knowledge, its cheaper both on time and
> > finances to pursue it on your own, and you gain more Knowledge through
> self
> > sturdy and research than through classwork.
> >
> > ______________________
> > Mwendwa Kivuva
> > twitter.com/lordmwesh
> > google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
> >
> >
> > On 15 October 2013 14:26, Leonard Kore <leonardkore at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I can honestly say it *enhanced your knowledge and passion in the
> field.*
> >> *
> >> *
> >> Then again it depends on which Masters you are doing.
> >>
> >> The new kind of Masters programs are actually very technical and provide
> >> students with actual skills.
> >>
> >> Example:
> >>
> http://www.ilabafrica.ac.ke/index.php/what-we-do/programs/safaricom-academy
> >>
> >> Anyway my humble 2 cents.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael,
> >>>
> >>> A Masters is potentially a program that can teach you a broad set of
> >>> skills including how to think critically, how to communicate
> effectively,
> >>> how to teach yourself, and how to work with others.
> >>>
> >>> A certificate is going to teach you how to do a specific set of tasks
> in
> >>> a certain domain (i.e. Window Server management).
> >>>
> >>> The thing with certificates is that they last for no more than 10 years
> >>> and typically only 5. In addition, some people view certificates as an
> >>> anti-credential and count them against the candidate with the theory
> that
> >>> certificates aren't demonstrative of true comprehension of the subject
> >>> matter.
> >>>
> >>> I would choose the Masters since it's a credential that lasts a
> lifetime
> >>> but of course it's also far more expensive that just a series of certs.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Adam
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io
> >>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
> >>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Michael Bullut <main at kipsang.com
> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Greetings Listers,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been wrestling with a quagmire for sometimes now about pursuing a
> >>>> Masters Degree Program. As an Information Technology professional,
> would it
> >>>> more pertinent to seek vendor certifications as they instruct on what
> >>>> technologies the industry is using? In my humble observation,
> professionals
> >>>> of all fields pursue a Masters either because it is fashionable or
> they
> >>>> have no other choice but to do so. My question to my brethren: *What
> >>>> would your advice be in such a situation?* *Did you pursue a Masters
> >>>> because it was a means to an end or it enhanced your knowledge and
> passion
> >>>> in the field? *
> >>>>
> >>>> *Help a wandering young man out?*
> >>>>
> >>>> Warm regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael Bullut.
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>
> >>>> *Cell:* *+254 723 393 114.
> >>>> **Skype Name:* *Michael Bullut.*
> >>>> ***Twitter:** @Kipsang <http://twitter.com/Kipsang/>
> >>>> *
> >>>> *Blog: http://www.kipsang.com/*
> >>>> *E-mail:* *main at kipsang.com*
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>> *---*
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Leonard Kore
> >>
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> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:57:26 +0100 (BST)
> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
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> Hi,
>
> My advise is that you pursue an MBA so that you can get a better
> appreciation of how a business functions which will allow you to better
> leverage ICT to meet the organisations strategic objectives.
>
> This advise only applies if you are in industry but if you are in academia
> then follow the usual path.
>
> Regards
> ?
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 15 October 2013, 14:59, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
> wrote:
>
> In my opinion, people pursue Masters for the paper value and the bragging
> rights. If you really needed knowledge, its cheaper both on time and
> finances to pursue it on your own, and you gain more Knowledge through self
> sturdy and research than through classwork.
>
>
> ______________________
> Mwendwa Kivuva
> twitter.com/lordmwesh
>
> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
>
>
> On 15 October 2013 14:26, Leonard Kore <leonardkore at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can honestly say it?enhanced your knowledge and passion in the field.
> >
> >
> >Then again it depends on which Masters you are doing.
> >
> >
> >
> >The new kind of Masters programs are actually very technical and provide
> students with actual skills.
> >
> >
> >Example:?
> http://www.ilabafrica.ac.ke/index.php/what-we-do/programs/safaricom-academy
> >
> >
> >Anyway my humble 2 cents.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
> >
> >Michael,
> >>
> >>
> >>A Masters is potentially a program that can teach you a broad set of
> skills including how to think critically, how to communicate effectively,
> how to teach yourself, and how to work with others.
> >>
> >>
> >>A certificate is going to teach you how to do a specific set of tasks in
> a certain domain (i.e. Window Server management).
> >>
> >>
> >>The thing with certificates is that they last for no more than 10 years
> and typically only 5. ?In addition, some people view certificates as an
> anti-credential and count them against the candidate with the theory that
> certificates aren't demonstrative of true comprehension of the subject
> matter.
> >>
> >>
> >>I would choose the Masters since it's a credential that lasts a lifetime
> but of course it's also far more expensive that just a series of certs.
> >>
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io
> >>Musings:?twitter.com/varud
> >>About Adam:?www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Michael Bullut <main at kipsang.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>Greetings Listers,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I've been wrestling with a quagmire for sometimes now about pursuing a
> Masters Degree Program. As an Information Technology professional, would it
> more pertinent to seek vendor certifications as they instruct on what
> technologies the industry is using? In my humble observation, professionals
> of all fields pursue a Masters either because it is fashionable or they
> have no other choice but to do so. My question to my brethren: What would
> your advice be in such a situation? Did you pursue a Masters because it was
> a means to an end or it enhanced your knowledge and passion in the field?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Help a wandering young man out?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Warm regards,?
> >>>
> >>>Michael Bullut.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>---
> >>>
> >>>Cell:?+254 723 393 114.
> >>>Skype Name: Michael Bullut.
> >>>
> >>>Twitter:@Kipsang
> >>>
> >>>Blog:?http://www.kipsang.com/
> >>>E-mail: main at kipsang.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>---
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> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Leonard Kore
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