[kictanet] The core Internet institutions abandon the US Government | IGP Blog

Eric Osiakwan ericosiakwan at me.com
Sun Oct 13 18:53:53 EAT 2013


......there is nothing like an "idea" whose "time" has come. The coxiality between idea and time is able to orchestrate the forces of nature for the required manifestation and alas the verdict is out or shall we say still unfolding.

Great week.

Eric here 

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On Oct 13, 2013, at 17:08, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> Badru
> 
> True that..I see the issue thus:-
> 
> 1. Don't be holier than though if behind the scenes you are abusing the same kind of freedoms you purport to champion.
> 
> 2. Don't get caught :)
> 
> 3. That Governments can't really be truly trusted to protect the very freedoms that we vote them in to protect. In today's world its a tough call with all the terrorism and craziness going on..
> 
> 4. Multi-Stakeholderism is still the best way to ultimately protect the freedoms that we enjoy.
> 
> Ali Hussein
> 
> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
> 
> "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ali
>> 
>> The problem is that influence is about moral authority and right now the revelations have seriously affected that authority. 
>> 
>> We cannot keep calling out others on governance issues when we are the biggest abusers.  The US have allot of work to do unless we legitimize what they did and then have a new acceptable standard. 
>> 
>> Regards 
>> 
>> Badru Ntege
>> Sent from my Mobile
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>> On 13 Oct 2013, at 15:38, "Ali Hussein" <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>> 
>>> Badru
>>> 
>>> Thanks for sharing. Long overdue. I'm surprised it took this long..
>>> 
>>> It will definitely be interesting to watch what goes on in the next few months/years as ICANN and other members of the community that makes the Internet work continue to exert their independence from any one particular government.
>>> 
>>> We must however be vigilant and ensure that we do not throw the baby with the bath water. Some may not agree with me but I'd rather the US exert influence on International Internet Governance than see the emergence of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Russia, China and their ilk do so..
>>> 
>>> I'm just saying..
>>> 
>>> Ali Hussein
>>> 
>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>> 
>>> "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> http://www.internetgovernance.org/2013/10/11/the-core-internet-institutions-abandon-the-us-government/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Badru Ntege
>>>> Sent from my Mobile
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