[kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi

Wed Oct 2 13:40:05 EAT 2013

@Brian,

You and Mark have lost me, so what exactly is our role as KICTANET if we cannot advocate for the use of technology?

Based on the figures I had provided earlier newspapers no longer qualify as
 mass media therefore it is not a "public media" so by your definition and assertion by not publishing on public a.k.a social media they have not been open and transparent therefore a travesty has been committed.  

In addition we have more public listening to radio than read newspapers therefore the list of names and all advertisements must be read aloud on radio.

Regards

Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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 From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 11:58
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi

Bobby,

We need to be consistent with our messages. First we challenge Govt to be open, transparent, use public media to disclose procurement and recruitment processes. Then in the same breath we criticize them when it comes out looking as above? Let us not forget that the guidelines are now firmly entrenched in laws and regulations. Maybe a slightly different tact of discussing what kind of legal framework would support a more efficient use of various media might be more appropriate?

Mblayo

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:31 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

@Mark,
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>Even if we say that there are only 10% of the projected number of active sim cards making it 2.8 million which is still ten times more than the reach of the newspaper.
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>In addition the cost of an SMS is 2/- that of a news paper is 50 shillings, is it me or is this math a little basic?
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>Regards
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>Robert Yawe
>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>Kenya
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>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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>________________________________
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>From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com>
>To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> 
>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> 
>Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 20:05
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>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
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>I have a problem with the interpretation of no.s. 
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>For starters, the mobile penetration rate is rather debatable seeing as the CCK doesn't detail how/if they filter through individuals owning multiple lines and whether the lines are active or not. Also whether they are used in active mobile phones or in the "internet of things" i.e ATMs, automated car tracking gadgets etc. 
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>In my estimation the CCK works with Simcards sold. The info on the site also doesn't seem to be unto date. There is also the simple human habit of borrowing newspapers. Upcountry in my home town, the newspaper at the local roadside hotel is read by upwards of 200 people. These are people who wouldn't be bothered with internet on their phones. the few papers sold by the local vendor wind up being read by everybody, from the young to the old. It is also easy to archive the newspaper for reference tomorrow. Try digging up the link to an old article from last week and put yourself in the shoes of a 50 year old who has problems with Mpesa. 
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>newspapers are still effective in news dissemination in this part of the world in a way that the internet is yet to catch up. 
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>On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>@mark
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>>Newspaper circulation             250,000 copies (all 4 dailies) http://www.pressreference.com/Gu-Ku/Kenya.html
>>Daily Newspaper penetration    40%
>>People with Internet Access     12.9 million
>>Number of mobile phones        28.9 million
>>Mobile signal penetration          70%
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>>Which is the most practical and cost effective method?
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>>Regards
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>>PS.  I believe I am vindicated
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>>Robert Yawe
>>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi,
 00200
>>Kenya
>>
>>
>>
>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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>>________________________________
>> From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com>
>>To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> 
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> 
>>Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 17:25
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technophobia haina tiba, na haitafutwi
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>>@robert Exactly what did you want them to do? post it on their website and be satisfied with a job well done? Internet penetration is still abysmally low and is not as ubiquitous yet to provide a sufficient avenue to reach the widest populace. How is a young guy in Kericho without a computer or a smartphone supposed to access this info? cyber? 
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>>On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>Listers,
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>>>The photo above is of one of the ten pages taken up by the Parliamentary Service Communication in the 3 leading dailies inviting job applicants for interviews.
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>>>I rest my case.
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>>>Robert Yawe
>>>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>>Kenya
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>>>
>>>
>>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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>>-- 
>>Regards,
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>>Mark Mwangi
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>>markmwangi.me.ke
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>Mark Mwangi
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