[kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY

Thu Nov 28 10:59:35 EAT 2013

@Walu

> This realization in itself will increase self-regulation at User,Content Provider and Operator levels.

You mean censorship? 

There is only one route to that as the media in this country discovered..

Ali Hussein

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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein

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> On Nov 28, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> @Liko, @Eng Karuiki,
> 
> Recall that this local hosting/ cyber security is not my ideal position. Just a consensus understanding  I picked from my long online argument on the same with Sammy B. 
> 
> But maybe we can use the defamation example. If I defamed someone on a blog hosted locally, it is easier  to enforce a pull-down order from a local court as oppsed to if the content sits abroad and physically under a different jurisdiction.
> 
> Enforcement is therfore easier because one can walk up to the server room and make arrests if the techies decline to implement an order.
> 
> This realization in itself will increase self-regulation at User,Content Provider and Operator levels.
> 
> my 2pings.
> 
> walu.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 8:12 PM AST (Arabian) Agosta Liko wrote:
>> 
>> Walu
>> 
>> How does local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution,
>> judiciary) some teeth ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> @WhiteAfrican,
>>> 
>>> I do get your message.  But your language might be considered too strong
>>> by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on
>>> the same - same message, different words :-)
>>> 
>>> That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked".    Maybe the
>>> planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within
>>> the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was
>>> misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK...
>>> 
>>> @Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground?
>>> 
>>> walu.
>>> nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was
>>> argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :-
>>> that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution,
>>> judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as
>>> deterrent against would-be cybercriminals.
>>> 
>>> I however dont think that this should  lead to a decree that everyone MUST
>>> host locally because then I will have to give up my jwalu at yahoo.com mail
>>> account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <erik at zungu.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY
>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM
>>> 
>>> This is the kind of
>>> stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with
>>> the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what
>>> the internet is.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Erik Hersman
>>> 
>>> Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK at WhiteAfrican
>>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad!
>>> <conradakunga at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Absolutely absurd if this is in
>>> fact true.
>>> How does hosting sites locally mitigated against
>>> cybercrime?
>>> 
>>> What business does anyone have dictating to me
>>> where i can and can't host my websites?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at
>>> 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Listers
>>> 
>>> The Communications
>>> Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that
>>> may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring
>>> websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight
>>> against cyber crime...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-websites-locally-in-new-rules/-/539550/2089412/-/15ly5o1z/-/index.html
>>> 
>>> I sincerely hope that the DG was
>>> somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to
>>> host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or
>>> mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security
>>> infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host
>>> any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one
>>> locally.
>>> 
>>> Can government please focus on
>>> legislation and regulation instead of butting into my
>>> business and telling me where I should host my website??
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ali Hussein
>>> 
>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713
>>> 601113
>>> "I fear the day technology will
>>> surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation
>>> of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>>> 
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