[kictanet] Cyber Cop

Tue Mar 19 18:27:32 EAT 2013

i do not want a blackout, far from it. but we must use our freedoms responsibly!

2013/3/19, meshack emakunat <memakunat at yahoo.com>:
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> Just for thought Egypt shut down internet during the Arab uprising in 2011.
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> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 5:21 AM PDT Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) wrote:
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>>Brian,
>>I agree with you that the insanity on social media has gone beyond
>>mere expression or opinion. The gloves are so off. There are too many
>>instances where people are commenting without regard for the rights
>>and reputations of others. It is as if the various camps have brought
>>out their best propaganda machinery...and it keeps getting nastier as
>>the election/ petition proceeds. And the intolerance! Why on earth do
>>we have to abuse someone for their opinion? Didn't our foreparents
>>fight so hard for plurality?
>>
>>On agenda four, maybe we missed the bus at the truth and
>>reconciliation stop. But all is not lost and it is just wrong for
>>people to keep stirring ethnic/sectarian emotions in the name of
>>communal anger. Haven't we always been angry? Why is the anger more
>>urgent now?
>>
>>Action should be taken towards those inciting others. I agree with
>>Macharia Gaitho, someone needs to stop this social media violence!
>>
>>
>>
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>>2013/3/19 Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>:
>>> Emmanuel,
>>>
>>> Thanks for setting me straight, this is clear evidence of the ignorance
>>> I
>>> alluded to as I began my previous post :)
>>>
>>> On a more serious note and once again, thank you so much for bringing
>>> this
>>> out, Agenda Four is a very critical part of our Nationhood. As you have
>>> pointed out, the media might seem to have lost focus, forgotten or
>>> ignored
>>> it's importance.
>>>
>>> But on issues of such grave importance as the Agenda Four - couldn't it
>>> also
>>> be argued that all stakeholders have failed in their roles?
>>>
>>> The two principals
>>> International Civil Society
>>> Local Civil Society
>>> Various relevant organs of Government
>>> Legal Fraternity
>>> Media Houses
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Emmanuel Khisa
>>> <oloo.khisa at googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>> I did not refer to blackout on politicians.
>>>
>>> The media has been failing in their role as interrogators of the deeper
>>> issues of Agenda four...Please note the following as regards the
>>> national
>>> accord:
>>>
>>> The National Accord
>>>
>>> The two parties agreed to tackle four main agenda items to end the
>>> political crisis and address its underlying causes.
>>>
>>> Agenda Item 1: Immediate Action to Stop Violence and Restore Fundamental
>>> Rights.
>>> Agenda Item 2: Addressing the Humanitarian Crisis, and Promoting Healing
>>> and Reconciliation.
>>> Agenda Item 3: How to Overcome the Political Crisis (power sharing).
>>> Agenda Item 4: Tackling Long-term Issues.
>>>
>>> Agenda four addresses the long standing issues of Land, Equity and other
>>> causative factors of ethnic violence ( PEV included). This does not
>>> screem
>>> any politician's name, it simply means this so called Mantra of PEACE
>>> has
>>> been used to cloud our collective psychie as a country. The problem with
>>> this is that today you think Kenya is peaceful just because we are able
>>> to
>>> drive around Nairobi and go for our nyama choma sessions in Naivasha or
>>> Kajiado...what we forget is that so far we have no report on the Tana
>>> River
>>> Violence, Baragoi Massacre, Garrisa and NE province violence, simmering
>>> conflicts in Kwale and the entire coast...We are all glued to our TVs
>>> very
>>> ready to embrace "PEACE" while conviniently avoiding the topics listed
>>> as
>>> grievances...
>>>
>>> So Mr. Munyao, it is very critical that we begin to not use the
>>> responsibility of Cyber use as a pannacea for all the ills facing the
>>> country for ventilating we must late people ventilate..and the
>>> institutions
>>> charged with these responsibilities must use the tones and trends of
>>> discussion online to map out issues that need addressing...and The MEDIA
>>> must be key here....The Agenda Four items will not address themselve and
>>> yet
>>> it is these issues..longstanding that will slow down the currently
>>> raging
>>> tribal sentiments on the internet.
>>>
>>> My thoughts,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe
>>> <blongwe at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Please excuse my ignorance but in responding to Emmanuel's input I
>>>> don't
>>>> see the relationship between media's black out on politicians and the
>>>> insanity on social media.
>>>>
>>>> Let's put this in context - the media blackout affects a select few -
>>>> the
>>>> political elite who are looking for a platform to push their own
>>>> personal
>>>> and political agendas. The blackout has to a certain extent protected
>>>> Kenyans from their inflammatory statements.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, the social media activity involves hundreds, if not
>>>> thousands of individuals who are expressing their personal opinions (as
>>>> negative and unsavoury as those might be). I place emphasis here on
>>>> *expressing their opinion*. The fact that they are using social media as
>>>> one
>>>> of the channels where their opinion gets aired is simply that, a matter
>>>> of
>>>> fact. I am sure that they express the same opinion in their homes, over
>>>> their phones, in their hair salons, bars, classrooms, gyms etc...This
>>>> is
>>>> because the opinion belongs to them.
>>>>
>>>> Let us not be naive and try to separate the opinion from the individual
>>>> behind it. That to me, is the more important issue. A tribal tirade on
>>>> social media is indicative of a tribal opinion held by an individual
>>>> with
>>>> tribal beliefs. Solve the basic problem of promoting Kenyanness, unity
>>>> and a
>>>> non-tribal outlook and I believe that strides begin to be made towards
>>>> solving the problem.
>>>>
>>>> My two cents,
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John F. Kennedy - “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will
>>>> make violent revolution inevitable”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:oloo.khisa at googlemail.com]
>>>> Sent: March 19, 2013 9:50 AM
>>>> To: Edith Adera
>>>> Cc: oloo.khisa at gmail.com; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT
>>>> Policy Discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cyber Cop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed cyber responsiblilty is not a standalone initiative...cyber
>>>> exists as a channel for expressing the societal views and does not
>>>> therefore
>>>> exist on its on...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The day we realise that gagging the traditional media does not work in
>>>> the 21st century internet age we will start making steps to tackle the
>>>> difficult issues the SOUL of the country is struggling with.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We can make noise about responsible internet use but for as long as the
>>>> media blacks out channels of communications, blogsphere will remain the
>>>> only
>>>> media of expression for the populace...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IMHO we are a country that is quick to bury its head in the sand and
>>>> now
>>>> we are left with a simmering problem on Agenda 4 which remain unattended
>>>> to
>>>> and which is awaiting an opportune time to explode..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regard
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bwana Ndemo,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I reflected on your unenviable job as a “cyber cop” (watching you on
>>>> The Trend last Friday) and stumbled on this article by Gaitho entitled
>>>> “The
>>>> demented postings on social media must stop before blood flows”
>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/-/446672/1723754/-/ee6vonz/-/index.html
>>>> it
>>>> occurred to me that we probably need something deeper, while we must
>>>> address
>>>> the madness online.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You’re on record here advocating for policy/decision-making based on
>>>> empirical/research evidence. I recall your spirited campaign about the
>>>> Cancer Bill that MPs excitedly passed without the benefit of scientific
>>>> evidence as to “the actual cause of cancers in Kenya”. You argued that
>>>> you
>>>> wished they did not get excited about addressing the symptoms of the
>>>> problem, but the root cause.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As you crack down on cyber haters (to address the symptoms of the
>>>> problem), could we also ask ourselves a couple of questions (listers,
>>>> feel
>>>> free to add more questions) to get to the ROOT CAUSE of this ANGER:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *why are people so angry?
>>>>
>>>> *is this anger only in cyberspace?
>>>>
>>>> *If not, to what extent is it a reflection of simmering (unexpressed)
>>>> anger on the ground?
>>>>
>>>> *what are the implications of unexpressed anger?
>>>>
>>>> *why are people comfortable to express such deep anger online and not
>>>> offline? What are they afraid of?
>>>>
>>>> *How can long-lasting co-existence be achieved, once and for all?
>>>>
>>>> * etc etc etc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Someone has work to do as we try to address the short-term symptoms –
>>>> is
>>>> it the academic community? or pollsters can have a post-election job to
>>>> do?
>>>> I don’t know, but the RROT CAUSE, we must find including the solutions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reflective Edith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oloo Khisa
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "Service to Mankind is the greatest form of service"...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oloo Khisa
>>> P.O. Box 24324-00100
>>> Nairobi
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>>--
>>Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu)
>>Kenya
>>Skype: gracebomu
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>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and
>> development.
>>
>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu)
Kenya
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