[kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?

Wed Mar 6 18:31:32 EAT 2013

A couple more updates: http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/post/44706681378/updates-going-manual-clarification-on-tech

Erik Hersman

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On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Agosta,
> 
> When you say "we all know people in IEBC", who is "we"?
> 
> Are you saying that just because I see Izaak and Oswago on TV, I can walk to IEBC offices (where are they? Anniversary) and introduce myself as Washington, an ICT practitioner, and offer to help them?
> 
> Why are you taking suggestions being made on this list as that cheaply/pedestrian?
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> Surely, some of us have given out our ideas publicly on forums without asking fo "consultation fees". We are not all like "there is show business".
> 
> 
> On 6 March 2013 14:04, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
> Erik
> 
> There is helping then there is show business.
> 
> As I said, we all know people in IEBC, if we needed information or to help ... a call or sms does the trick
> 
> Unless someone actually contacted IEBC with an offer to help. Even and email
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> 
> 
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> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik at zungu.com> wrote:
> Agosta,
> 
> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on this list we understand that better than most.  However, how are you supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong?
> 
> That's really what's at issue here.  It's about understanding how it works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if anything) we can do.  Do you find something wrong in that train of thought?
> 
> Erik Hersman
> 
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> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Daudi
>> 
>> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election system, things fail and most times they recover.
>> 
>> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a fact what the problem is
>> 
>> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the staff there. We know them !!
>> 
>> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, websites etc etc
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>> Maybe this will bring in more grants .....
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>> about the RFP ...
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------
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>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND TO THIS RFP
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------
>> 
>> Liko,
>> 
>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. 
>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. 
>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. 
>> 
>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. 
>> 
>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. 
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>> D
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