[kictanet] Fw: KENIC set to be wound up

Tue Jul 16 13:22:28 EAT 2013

I apologize.

The multi-stakeholder norm is the most important issue here by far.
 Although I think .ke needs better management as evidenced by the points I
set out earlier, it should not come at the expense of the mult-stakeholder
process which is paramount.

I still stand my statements but they all are of lower importance than
multi-stakeholder management of TLDs (and other Internet resources).

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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> Adam
>
> Not sure which world you are living in :) but the fact that you can't get
> any variation or iteration of domains at the gTLDs level makes ccTLDs
> highly desirable.
>
> ccTLDs are the new e-land grab.
>
> If you don't believe me please search for bank.co.ke, banks.co.ke,
> sex.co.ke (according to the KeNIC site you can't register sex.co.ke, I
> wonder why :) ) phone.co.ke etc. lets not even talk about the gTLD
> versions.
>
> Adam, what is at stake here isn't even the commercial issues and as a
> former director at KeNIC I can tell you that they are huge. It is the whole
> principal of Multi-Stakeholderism that is being fought. That is the
> elephant in the room that we must address.
>
> I do hope that no one is taking advantage of the flux situation of
> transition to shove through unpopular/illegal decisions.
>
> Let us be transparent and above board on this issue.
>
> Wambua, I think its time CCK issues a statement on this issue so that we
> stop this 'speculation'.
>
> I do also hope that the Cabinet Secretary of ICT can weigh in on this..
>
> Ali Hussein
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> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
>
> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375
>
> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
>
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>
> On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>
> Let's not overthink it.  .za does not compete at the world level and .de
> serves a market that is 100x larger than what .ke serves:
>
> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=kenya+gdp+vs+germany+gdp
>
> Generic TLDs are where stuff is happening.  Country code TLDs are just a
> vestige of the old Internet and while they will always have a place
> (government sites, locally focused domains, etc...), they are not something
> to be spending much time on.
>
> I think KENIC (or whomever) should just fix the three obvious problems and
> then move onto other issues.  Worrying about country code TLDs is just not
> worth much effort.
>
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>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>wrote:
>
>> Astonishing news, as preposterous as it sounds.
>>
>> We need a very balanced approach and meaningful engagement in getting
>> into the issues at play here.
>> I am sure most of us wants what is best for the Kenyan society and the
>> business community. I look forward to a time when the preferred domain in
>> Kenya will be .ke. Probably somebody with information can give us a
>> background overview.
>>
>> I am sure the IT Director at CCK Michael Katundu who has been a long
>> serving KENIC director wants the best out of the our ccTLD, including
>> competing at a world level like .za and .de  I am also sure in his
>> difficult and challenging task as chief IT advisory to the Director
>> General Mr. Francis Wangusi and the CCK board, the advice and outcome that
>> will be fronted will be a progressive and selfless one.
>>
>> It's interesting to note that the President of Kenya, H.E Uhuru Kenyatta
>> in his speech to business community and civil society in May 2013 during
>> swearing in of cabinet secretaries encouraged  public private partnerships
>> and fostering dialog. Nobody would like to be seen to undermine the
>> performance of the President, or his humble decree barely 100 days after he
>> took office.
>>
>> Before the re-delegation of our ccTLD, we need know what works, what does
>> not work, what effort and approaches have been employed, any working group
>> that has been constituted, how the working groups were reconstituted,
>> reports and recommendations of the working group, and finally the concrete
>> basis for the re-delegation.
>>
>> Long live .KE
>> ______________________
>> Mwendwa Kivuva
>> twitter.com/lordmwesh
>> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
>>
>>
>> On 16 July 2013 08:32, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Walu and all,
>>>
>>> I really look forwad to a full public engagement process before any
>>> major decision can be made, is this the best that we can do as a nation? as
>>> the Internet society we are looking forwad to a public process that will
>>> examine possible solutions to this debacle that has dragged on for years,
>>> we are not short of case studies from Africa and globally and we will seek
>>> to demonstrate this. We welcome all stakeholders to the Kenya Internet
>>> Governance Forum to be held at Stathmore University Business School on July
>>> 26th 2013 where we shall make our position on this matter known.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <
>>> nmutungu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ever since matters KENIC ceased being public.....
>>>>
>>>> On 16/07/2013, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > Not sure if this is true...but I thought only the KENIC AGM can wound
>>>> up
>>>> > KENIC.  Not sure of the Regulator can do this single-handedly...
>>>> >
>>>> > read more...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Kenyan regulator looks to decommission domain registrar
>>>> > The country's communications agency is looking to put in place a new
>>>> > registry, but the process is controversial
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.itworld.com/internet/365167/kenyan-regulator-looks-decommission-domain-registrar?page=0,0
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > walu.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Kenya
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