[kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France

Thu Aug 29 13:17:58 EAT 2013

JTL Faiba does not have the 5K offer -- that is where the competition will
beat them + it is a domestic service -- not offered to commercial
buildings/premises - from what a sales/service rep told me early this year.

Blessings

Murigi / Stanley Muraya

*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
who takes a city." Prov 16:32*

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:

> My sentiments exactly.  High quality fiber is the foundation of the
> Internet economy in Kenya and 1K per Mb is fine by global standards - there
> just needs to be more availability:
>
> * This solution won't help everybody
> * This solution won't help the poor
> * This solution won't help the rural
> * This solution will empower the 1% of serious technology people in the
> main cities to create businesses and develop global-calibre skills ... and
> those businesses will be the bedrock that supports the three points above.
>
> BTW, JTL Faiba offers fiber for those prices and it's very high quality
> with no caps as far as I can tell.
>
> --
> Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io
> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is
>> laying a good amount of Fiber now.
>>
>> We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs)
>> to 10K (10Mbs)
>>
>> Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K
>> offer.
>>
>> Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
>>
>>
>>
>> Blessings
>>
>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>>
>> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
>> who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
>>>
>>> 1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant
>>> 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of
>>> way (wayleave)
>>> 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable
>>> 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI
>>> 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in
>>> the country (it's branches and exchanges)
>>> 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would
>>> arouse any telco in the world
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'.  It's 2013 and
>>>> that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
>>>>
>>>> In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by
>>>> the end of the year:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lines_ap/
>>>>
>>>> I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus
>>>> should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya
>>>> Telekom
>>>>
>>>> -Adam
>>>> --
>>>> Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io
>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Telecom saga
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>>>>>
>>>>> I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government
>>>>> are just distracting the company and they now also look like the
>>>>> company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other
>>>>> incentives rather than arm twist it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein
>>>>> Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12
>>>>> To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi
>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>>> Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France
>>>>> Telecom saga
>>>>> Listers
>>>>>
>>>>> In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive
>>>>> action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls
>>>>> 'unprocedural'
>>>>> transfer of shares.
>>>>>
>>>>> In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing.
>>>>> Lets
>>>>> go one step further:-
>>>>>
>>>>> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed
>>>>> experiment
>>>>> and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the
>>>>> Kenyan
>>>>> People.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=
>>>>> ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>
>>>>> *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: +254713601113
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<
>>>>> http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al=
>>>>> ihkassim>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely
>>>>> mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
>>>>> organizations that I work with.
>>>>>
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