[kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France

Thu Aug 29 11:59:55 EAT 2013

@Adam Is there a western country that has allowed its original carrier to
collapse on its own? Infact has any of them allowed a foreign company to
come do the honours for it? The notion that governments cannot run
successful businesses is refuted by France Telecom Better known as Orange
and DHL which are still wholly government owned by their respective
companies. Is AT&T collapsing?

The 30 billion shillings that France telecom has effectively been awarded
is still ot translating to profits. Next they will want to sell prime real
estate because they don't have money.

This is not a business issue but manipulation for control. France telecom
wants total control of Telecom Kenya possibly for nefarious reasons. I fail
to see how they are not able to turn a profit with all the resources at
their disposal.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> Adam
>
> Indeed. Tongue in cheek..:)
>
> Ali Hussein
> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
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> +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375
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> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>
> Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'.  It's 2013 and that
> company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
>
>  In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the
> end of the year:
>
>
> http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lines_ap/
>
> I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus
> should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya
> Telekom
>
> -Adam
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> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Telecom saga
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>> I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government
>> are just distracting the company and they now also look like the
>> company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
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>> Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other
>> incentives rather than arm twist it?
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>> Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein
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>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France
>> Telecom saga
>> Listers
>>
>> In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive
>> action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural'
>> transfer of shares.
>>
>> In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing.
>> Lets
>> go one step further:-
>>
>> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed
>> experiment
>> and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan
>> People.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=
>> ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
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