[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 71, Issue 79
Michael Bullut
main at kipsang.com
Wed Apr 17 10:30:48 EAT 2013
*@Ory:* If the model is also adopted here in Kenya, I see a lot more people
(youth included) taking up agriculture as a source of livelihood...
On 11 April 2013 17:32, <kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> Meanwhile away from the "Silicon Savannah" noise, guys are quietly building
> regional IT businesses and doing big things e.g. Cellulant has
> impressed me<
> https://twitter.com/bytebandit/status/322237172604354561/photo/1>
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> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, <kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke
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> > 1. Innovationville: Where all the good money making African
> > start ups go to die (Andrea Bohnstedt)
> > 2. Re: Innovationville: Where all the good money making African
> > start ups go to die (Ali Hussein)
> > 3. Re: Innovationville: Where all the good money making African
> > start ups go to die (Agosta Liko)
> > 4. Re: Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants (robert yawe)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:29:34 +0300
> > From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Subject: [kictanet] Innovationville: Where all the good money making
> > African start ups go to die
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> > Fun read:
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> http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:57:21 +0300
> > From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
> > To: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Innovationville: Where all the good money
> > making African start ups go to die
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> > Interesting read Andrea. And of course Africa is no different from most
> > start up environments..there is the hype and then there is the
> > business..both feed on each other..
> >
> > Thanks for sharing.
> >
> > Ali Hussein
> > CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
> > Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
> >
> > +254 773/713 601113
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> > "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> > On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <
> > andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
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> > > Fun read:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29
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> > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:32:03 +0300
> > From: Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com>
> > To: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
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> > Looks like Tis the season
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> > one one side, they want interviews ... on the other ...
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> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting read Andrea. And of course Africa is no different from most
> > > start up environments..there is the hype and then there is the
> > > business..both feed on each other..
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing.
> > >
> > > Ali Hussein
> > > CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
> > > Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
> > >
> > > +254 773/713 601113
> > >
> > > "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <
> > > andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Fun read:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:12:10 +0100 (BST)
> > From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca>
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
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> > @Edith, Details on this initiative please
> >
> > ?
> > Robert Yawe
> > KAY System Technologies Ltd
> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> > Kenya
> >
> >
> > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca>
> > To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 23:59
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gilda,
> > ?
> > Building the foundation bottom-up (class 1) is very important, can?t be
> > under-rated. That will be creating a new digital generation from the
> > ?roots?. Sega Silicon Valley has tested this at Kogere primary school and
> > surrounding schools and the impact is amazing. From bottom of the pile,
> > Kogere school rose up to top 5 in the area and the kids are amazing ?
> they
> > self-learn and do fascinating stuff with computers!
> > ?
> > Edith
> > ?
> > ?
> > From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
> idrc.ca at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> > On Behalf Of Gilda Odera
> > Sent: April 10, 2013 12:06 PM
> > To: Edith Adera
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> > ?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > ?
> > Gilda Odera
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > From: Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
> > >Date: April 10, 2013 12:02:14 PM GMT+03:00
> > >To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> > >Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> > Listers,
> > >?
> > >My recommendation is that this project should start from Form 1.
> Reasons:
> > >?
> > >1. We need to generate interest and start building that capacity base
> > ASAP. Waiting for the standard ones to finish school is way too long.
> > >2. Given the tight budgets the country is currently facing in
> > implementing the constitution, it is wiser to work with less numbers yet
> > still achieve the desired outcome as things settle down over the next
> five
> > years.?
> > >3. Once successful in high schools, the project can be rolled to primary
> > schools. By then, results of giving the high school students laptops will
> > be evident and there should be sufficient budgets to roll both.
> > >?
> > >In my view, capacity building is urgent in the ICT industry and
> therefore
> > this noble idea should prioritise those who are bound to start innovating
> > and harnessing their skills- which really are high school students.
> > >My two cents.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >?
> > >Gilda Odera
> > >
> > >On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:55 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > >Another reason why the laptop project is the future
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/05/ten-websites-that-teach-coding-and-a-bunch-of-other-things/
> > >>
> > >>regards
> > >>?
> > >>?
> > >>Robert Yawe
> > >>KAY System Technologies Ltd
> > >>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> > >>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> > >>Kenya
> > >>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> > >>
> > >>________________________________
> > >>
> > >>From:Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> > >>To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> > >>Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40
> > >>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>@Yawe,
> > >>
> > >>I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new
> > Principals.? Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new
> > Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news.? Just drop the
> > laptop business or at least modify it because of the
> > following reasons.
> > >>
> > >>1. Curriculum.
> > >>Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play
> > games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these
> > youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once
> we
> > throw gadgets at them.?
> > >>
> > >>2. IT Teachers.
> > >>Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon
> > can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT
> > program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
> > >>
> > >>3. Examinations.
> > >>It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed
> > teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is
> > examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your
> > hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense
> > of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this
> > exam?
> > >>
> > >>4. Security/Theft.
> > >>If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about
> > laptops hanging either in staffrooms or? on standard 1 pupils?? What
> about
> > a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use
> for
> > other purposes? This is not far fetched
> > since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were
> > University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them
> off
> > at market price.
> > >>
> > >>5. Maintenance\Disposal program.
> > >>Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So
> > we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets
> across
> > rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4
> and
> > so our buget for laptops will double
> > -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
> > >>
> > >>But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget
> > Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked
> > >>PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great
> > idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little
> > returns to the taxpayer.
> > >>
> > >>walu.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>------------------------------
> > >>On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>>I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the
> > issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable
> and
> > quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or
> > would low power touchscreen tablets
> > be more practical and appropriate?? However .com that the two principles
> > are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
> > >>>
> > >>>Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become
> > relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a
> > forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
> > >>>
> > >>>Regards
> > >>>
> > >>>PS.? A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>?
> > >>>Robert Yawe
> > >>>KAY System Technologies Ltd
> > >>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> > >>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> > >>>Kenya
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> > >>
> > >>
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