<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><b>@Ory:</b> If the model is also adopted here in Kenya, I see a lot more people (youth included) taking up agriculture as a source of livelihood...<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 April 2013 17:32, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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From: Ory Okolloh <<a href="mailto:ookolloh@gmail.com">ookolloh@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Meanwhile away from the "Silicon Savannah" noise, guys are quietly building<br>
regional IT businesses and doing big things e.g. Cellulant has<br>
impressed me<<a href="https://twitter.com/bytebandit/status/322237172604354561/photo/1" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/bytebandit/status/322237172604354561/photo/1</a>><br>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:29:34 +0300<br>
> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
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> Subject: [kictanet] Innovationville: Where all the good money making<br>
> African start ups go to die<br>
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> <a href="http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29" target="_blank">http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29</a><br>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:57:21 +0300<br>
> From: Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
> To: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Innovationville: Where all the good money<br>
> making African start ups go to die<br>
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> Interesting read Andrea. And of course Africa is no different from most<br>
> start up environments..there is the hype and then there is the<br>
> business..both feed on each other..<br>
><br>
> Thanks for sharing.<br>
><br>
> Ali Hussein<br>
> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd<br>
> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd<br>
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> one one side, they want interviews ... on the other ...<br>
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> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > Interesting read Andrea. And of course Africa is no different from most<br>
> > start up environments..there is the hype and then there is the<br>
> > business..both feed on each other..<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks for sharing.<br>
> ><br>
> > Ali Hussein<br>
> > CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd<br>
> > Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd<br>
> ><br>
> > +254 773/713 601113<br>
> ><br>
> > "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb<br>
> ><br>
> > Sent from my iPad<br>
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> > On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <<br>
> > <a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Fun read:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> <a href="http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29" target="_blank">http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29</a><br>
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> From: robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
> To: Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">eadera@idrc.ca</a>><br>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants<br>
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> @Edith, Details on this initiative please<br>
><br>
> ?<br>
> Robert Yawe<br>
> KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
> Kenya<br>
><br>
><br>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Edith Adera <<a href="mailto:eadera@idrc.ca">eadera@idrc.ca</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 23:59<br>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Gilda,<br>
> ?<br>
> Building the foundation bottom-up (class 1) is very important, can?t be<br>
> under-rated. That will be creating a new digital generation from the<br>
> ?roots?. Sega Silicon Valley has tested this at Kogere primary school and<br>
> surrounding schools and the impact is amazing. From bottom of the pile,<br>
> Kogere school rose up to top 5 in the area and the kids are amazing ? they<br>
> self-learn and do fascinating stuff with computers!<br>
> ?<br>
> Edith<br>
> ?<br>
> ?<br>
> From:kictanet [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera">kictanet-bounces+eadera</a>=<a href="mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke">idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of Gilda Odera<br>
> Sent: April 10, 2013 12:06 PM<br>
> To: Edith Adera<br>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br>
> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants<br>
> ?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> ?<br>
> Gilda Odera<br>
><br>
> Begin forwarded message:<br>
> From: Gilda Odera <<a href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke">godera@skyweb.co.ke</a>><br>
> >Date: April 10, 2013 12:02:14 PM GMT+03:00<br>
> >To: robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
> >Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants<br>
> Listers,<br>
> >?<br>
> >My recommendation is that this project should start from Form 1. Reasons:<br>
> >?<br>
> >1. We need to generate interest and start building that capacity base<br>
> ASAP. Waiting for the standard ones to finish school is way too long.<br>
> >2. Given the tight budgets the country is currently facing in<br>
> implementing the constitution, it is wiser to work with less numbers yet<br>
> still achieve the desired outcome as things settle down over the next five<br>
> years.?<br>
> >3. Once successful in high schools, the project can be rolled to primary<br>
> schools. By then, results of giving the high school students laptops will<br>
> be evident and there should be sufficient budgets to roll both.<br>
> >?<br>
> >In my view, capacity building is urgent in the ICT industry and therefore<br>
> this noble idea should prioritise those who are bound to start innovating<br>
> and harnessing their skills- which really are high school students.<br>
> >My two cents.<br>
> ><br>
> >Regards,<br>
> >?<br>
> >Gilda Odera<br>
> ><br>
> >On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:55 AM, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> >Another reason why the laptop project is the future<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> <a href="http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/05/ten-websites-that-teach-coding-and-a-bunch-of-other-things/" target="_blank">http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/05/ten-websites-that-teach-coding-and-a-bunch-of-other-things/</a><br>
> >><br>
> >>regards<br>
> >>?<br>
> >>?<br>
> >>Robert Yawe<br>
> >>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
> >>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
> >>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
> >>Kenya<br>
> >>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br>
> >><br>
> >>________________________________<br>
> >><br>
> >>From:Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> >>To: <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>
> >>Cc: <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40<br>
> >>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>@Yawe,<br>
> >><br>
> >>I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new<br>
> Principals.? Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new<br>
> Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news.? Just drop the<br>
> laptop business or at least modify it because of the<br>
> following reasons.<br>
> >><br>
> >>1. Curriculum.<br>
> >>Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play<br>
> games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these<br>
> youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we<br>
> throw gadgets at them.?<br>
> >><br>
> >>2. IT Teachers.<br>
> >>Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon<br>
> can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT<br>
> program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.<br>
> >><br>
> >>3. Examinations.<br>
> >>It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed<br>
> teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is<br>
> examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your<br>
> hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense<br>
> of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this<br>
> exam?<br>
> >><br>
> >>4. Security/Theft.<br>
> >>If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about<br>
> laptops hanging either in staffrooms or? on standard 1 pupils?? What about<br>
> a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for<br>
> other purposes? This is not far fetched<br>
> since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were<br>
> University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off<br>
> at market price.<br>
> >><br>
> >>5. Maintenance\Disposal program.<br>
> >>Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So<br>
> we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across<br>
> rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and<br>
> so our buget for laptops will double<br>
> -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.<br>
> >><br>
> >>But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget<br>
> Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked<br>
> >>PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great<br>
> idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little<br>
> returns to the taxpayer.<br>
> >><br>
> >>walu.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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> >>On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>>Hi,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the<br>
> issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and<br>
> quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or<br>
> would low power touchscreen tablets<br>
> be more practical and appropriate?? However .com that the two principles<br>
> are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become<br>
> relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a<br>
> forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>Regards<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>PS.? A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>>?<br>
> >>>Robert Yawe<br>
> >>>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
> >>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
> >>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
> >>>Kenya<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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