[kictanet] New Software to deepen spying on internet users

[Tomslin Samme-Nlar]

Hi John,

+1 on the concerns about the article

Tomslin




On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM, John Gitau <jgitau at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey tomslin,
>
> yes the situation demands that we be ipv6 ready. And quite a number of us
> are involved in this as I know you are either as a consultant or trainer.
> But looking at most networks, and applications including the developers to
> develop them, we are nowhere near large scale migrations.
>
> The central IPv4 pool got depleted a while back so thats gone. However
> Africa is one of the few places where an ISP can start from zero and get a
> /20 or even a /19 from afrinic's v4 pool.
>
> The issue I have with the article is its understandability especially by
> the people that read newspapers. If the journalist doesn't understand it,
> how in the world is he to communicate clearly. to say IPv6 will be used for
> 'spying' might work against its adoption by the common guy is one thing
> that comes to mind. Also today If Safariocm with the biggest customer base
> is able to give V4 space to each customer/business, I dont see how other
> ISP's cant. my point being with v4 as with v6, the spying (whatever that
> means) can occur. IP should be de-coupled from the 'spying' statements.
>
> gitau
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <s.tomsleen at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> @John - I think we are. If you look at the image below that summarizes
>> the availability in the central IPv4 pool as of 31/01/2011, you'll agree we
>> are, and projections show only Africa will still have available v4 address
>> by mid 2014. So I think it is also an issue.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> Sleen
>>
>> www.onelifeconsult.com
>> www.vmbgmusik.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:46 AM, John Gitau <jgitau at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well you were not that anonymous anyway. I'm sure something will give at
>>> some point.
>>>
>>> On the other hand we might need to do a workshop called 'technology for
>>> journalists' if they are to keep writing articles like these.
>>>
>>> And if this is about ipv6 we are nowhere near large scale migration yet.
>>> But so much is going on in that area right now.
>>>
>>> The bigger issue is people using resources outside our borders. Like
>>> foreign smtp servers, or foreign originated sms's. ISPs would need very
>>> clear terms. For instance only allowing email through their smtp servers
>>> for onward relay, or heuristicaly blocking messages based on some
>>> algorithm.
>>>
>>> Gitau
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 3 Sep 2012, at 07:59, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Listers
>>>
>>> Could this be a case of sensationalism? Or does the Government really
>>> want to have a sneak on whatever you do online?
>>>
>>> From experience we know that anyone can be traced using IP addresses
>>> unique to a computer or mobile phone. Read on and judge for yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/New+software+to+deepen+spying+on+Internet+users+/-/539546/1493584/-/ig0bka/-/index.html
>>>
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>>>
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