[kictanet] Q: How are Kenyan telcos helping the police recover stolen laptops?

Wed Oct 17 18:15:03 EAT 2012

Well Mr. Ikua, that is an interesting angle. If I had sensitive data that
could get erased remotely at low level, or If i could recover the laptop
with my very important data, that would suffice.

On 17 October 2012 17:43, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com> wrote:

> No problem there Kivuva. What if you really wanted to recover your own
> laptop? what if the software could erase your important files in the lost
> laptop?
> On Oct 17, 2012 5:40 PM, "Kivuva" <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Ikua, that cost of $50 annually is actually high. I'm better of
>> insuring my laptop with the knowledge that if it is lost, and not
>> recovered, I will still get it back, and the amount is just about $50
>>
>> On 17 October 2012 16:21, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not quite Barrack. Its very affordable. About $50 annually.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Barrack Otieno <
>>> otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @ Evans the cost implication might be astronomical no? interesting
>>>> ideas though.
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know of software solutions that can help track your lost laptop. The
>>>>> software resides in the bios, so uninstalling the OS won't help. This only
>>>>> works once the laptop is plugged into the Internet. From this point, you
>>>>> need the cooperation of the Telco/ISP and the police to track the laptop
>>>>> using the IPs. I have never tried it though.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Michael Bullut <main at kipsang.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *@Alex* + 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 October 2012 14:32, Alex Comninos <alex.comninos at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It can be quite easy to track USB modems (dongles) through the IEMI
>>>>>>> number, like in a cellphone. It is easy to block IEMI numbers and
>>>>>>> punish the criminal by rendering the device useless. Whether
>>>>>>> geolocating the devices through triangulation of GSM reception is
>>>>>>> possible depends on whether this type of tracking is allowed by
>>>>>>> legislation. This would probably need a warrant to prevent abuse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Detecting a laptop is however virtually impossible. Laptops transmit
>>>>>>> two MAC adresses over networks (the wired and wireless connection)
>>>>>>> that can identify them. However the MAC address can only be detected
>>>>>>> by LANs or wireless networks. Once the device is in a local network
>>>>>>> (LAN) it is behind a router, which has its own MAC address, rendering
>>>>>>> the MAC adress of the laptop undetectable. Thus the telcos can only
>>>>>>> track USB modems and phones, but not laptops. There are simply no
>>>>>>> technological methods available to have telcos cooperate in finding
>>>>>>> laptops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would suggest if one is afraid of losing a laptop:
>>>>>>> 1- one insures it
>>>>>>> 2- one encrypts the harddrive (Windows can do this now) as to not
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> sensitive data stolen
>>>>>>> 3- one backs up their data regularly, either to a harddrive, or
>>>>>>> online
>>>>>>> to the cloud.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 October 2012 12:39, Nancy Macharia <n_macharia at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Muraya,
>>>>>>> > This is a serious concern as we kenyans  save their hard earned
>>>>>>> income to purchase laptops.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The amount of agony and disorientation one experiences upon losing
>>>>>>> not just the hardware resource but more importantly the information is
>>>>>>> enormous.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I was a victim of this heinous act and telcos did not appear to be
>>>>>>> of help.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I would be delighted to offer ideas towards realising a solution
>>>>>>> for this menace.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Nancy
>>>>>>> > Tel: +254727746156Sent from my BlackBerry
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
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>>>>>>> > Subject: [kictanet] Q: How are Kenyan telcos helping the police
>>>>>>> recover
>>>>>>> >         stolen laptops?
>>>>>>> >
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