[kictanet] [ISOC_KE] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to developing world

Sat Oct 6 05:49:24 EAT 2012

Greetings Omo,

May i also suggest that to avoid reinventing the wheel we may want to pick
the reports of the Kenya IGF 2012 and the East African IGF where the
subject was discussed, ATU was also an active participant. There was a good
discussion around the same topic.

Thank you

Best Regards

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> John
>
> Asante sana. Will do.
>
> Regards
>
> Ali Hussein
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Omo, John <Omo at cck.go.ke> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot Ndugu Ali. Awaiting from substative comments. Feel free to
>> even drop by and discuss them before. Planned meeting.
>> Apologies to others for X but the foregoing invitation is also extended.
>> Rgds.
>> Omo, j
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>  *From*: Ali Hussein **
>> *To*: Omo, John
>> *Cc*: Wambua, Christopher; World Conference on International
>> Telecommunications; ** **; info; isoc at orion.my.co.ke **
>> *Sent*: Tue Sep 25 03:59:04 2012
>>
>> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals
>> to developing world
>>
>> Apologies for cross-listing
>>
>> John
>>
>> Thanks for your candid answer. Indeed  we must find time to read the
>> proposals and give our input.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>>
>> +254 773/713 601113
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone®
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:16 PM, "Omo, John" <Omo at cck.go.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Ali.
>>
>> Thanks to you and others who have come through on this subject and
>> uplouded the CCK initiative.
>>
>> Let me say that there cannot be a clear-cut answer to your querry. One
>> has to carefully study the Proposals and consider the merits behind every
>> of them. In general, however, the philosophy behind the AfCPs gravitate
>> around the 2nd and 3rd Schools/'Synopsis.'
>>
>> Let's please study the Proposals and offer substantive comments noting to
>> cf with Proposals from the other ITU Regions. Such will assist in
>> conducting a face-to-face national consultative process, enriching the
>> AfCPs and during Treaty negotiations in Dubai.
>>
>> Omo, john.
>> Chair, Nat. Prep. Com.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>  *From*: Ali Hussein **
>> *To*: Wambua, Christopher
>> *Cc*: World Conference on International Telecommunications; KICTAnet ICT
>> Policy Discussions **; info
>> *Sent*: Mon Sep 24 20:16:24 2012
>> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals
>> to developing world
>> ****
>>
>> Wambua
>>
>> That's a good synopsis of the 3 schools of thought. I haven't had a
>> chance of reading our position (Kenya & Africa) so would appreciate if you
>> could tell us in which of these 3 schools do we fall in?
>>
>> I will definitely find time to read the position. Thanks once again for
>> the work put it on this.
>>
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>>
>> +254 773/713 601113
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 3:39 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua at cck.go.ke>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Walu****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> It is important to note that all the regions of the world have different
>> positions on the ITRs. There are those who are of the view that the ITRs
>> should remain as they are. Another school of thought argues that a review
>> is necessary but should be minimal, only addressing those provisions that
>> have been overtaken by technological and market developments. The third
>> school argues that review should be extensive as the global telecoms
>> industry has changed enormously since 1988. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> The outcome of WCIT-12 will be a product of negotiations/trade-off
>> between these three schools of thought. And that why all regions of the
>> world are developing regional positions so that they can have higher
>> leverage in the negotiations. What Kenya, or Africa for that matter, will
>> take to Dubai will therefore have to be subjected to this process. I
>> believe the ITU shall publish the final ITRs (Final Acts) after the
>> conference. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>  I hope this is helpful. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Wambua****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Walubengo J [mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com <jwalu at yahoo.com>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 3:07 PM
>> *To:* Ali Hussein
>> *Cc:* World Conference on International Telecommunications; KICTAnet ICT
>> Policy Discussions; info
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals
>> to developing world****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Mich/Ali,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I must also commend CCK on this process of vigorous engagement with
>> Stakeholders.  I think it is either the new broom (read DG) sweeps better
>> syndrome or the new constitution in action - but perhaps a mixture of both
>> factors...****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> walu.****
>>
>> nb: I do hope eventually they share what they will present at WCIT.  They
>> ofcourse are not compelled to take in everything from stakeholders but
>> stakeholders have a right to know what was picked/ignored from their input.
>> ****
>>    ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>> *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com
>> *Cc:* World Conference on International Telecommunications <
>> WCIT-12 at cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>; info <info at cck.go.ke>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 11:05 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals
>> to developing world****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Michuki
>>
>> I would have to agree with you on this.
>>
>> Ali Hussein****
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki at swiftkenya.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>>
>> I have to say that am impressed with the process that the GoK and CCK
>> has taken on the WCIT-12 debate. IMHO this is a proudly Kenyan moment.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michuki.****
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/12 7:55 AM, Wambua, Christopher wrote:
>> > TIM and Listers,
>> >
>> > The African Common Proposals (which Kenya through CCK has been involved
>> > in their development)are available on the CCK website at
>> > http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/Public_Consultation.html
>> >
>> > CCK is inviting comments on the review to the ITRs to enrich the African
>> > Common Proposals (ACPs), and where necessary, to develop national
>> > positions ahead of the WCIT-12.
>> >
>> > The African region is meeting in Accra, Ghana, this week for third
>> > African region preparatory meeting for the World Telecommunications
>> > Standardization Assembly and the WCIT-12.
>> >
>> > The revised ACPs that will come out the Ghana meeting shall be uploaded
>> > on the CCK website to keep the local ICT community and stakeholders
>> > fully apprised on what is happening in this space.
>> >
>> > CCK is planning to convene a stakeholders meeting on WCIT-12 after the
>> > Ghana meeting (and after compiling comments on the African proposals to
>> > the review of ITRs) to discuss the final proposals that Kenya shall be
>> > taking to WCIT-12 in Dubai.
>> >
>> > I hope this sheds light on this matter.
>> >
>> >
>> > Christopher Wambua
>> > Manager/Communications
>> > Consumer and Public Affairs Division
>> > Communications Commission of Kenya
>> > P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800
>> > KENYA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: kictanet
>> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=cck.go.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>> > Behalf O
>>
>>
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