<div dir="ltr">Greetings Omo,<br><br>May i also suggest that to avoid reinventing the wheel we may want to pick the reports of the Kenya IGF 2012 and the East African IGF where the subject was discussed, ATU was also an active participant. There was a good discussion around the same topic.<br>
<br>Thank you<br><br>Best Regards<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">John<br><br>Asante sana. Will do.<br><br>Regards<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>Ali Hussein </font></span></span><br><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Omo, John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Omo@cck.go.ke" target="_blank">Omo@cck.go.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><p><font color="navy" face="Arial">
Thanks a lot Ndugu Ali. Awaiting from substative comments. Feel free to even drop by and discuss them before. Planned meeting.<br>Apologies to others for X but the foregoing invitation is also extended.<br>Rgds.<br>Omo, j<br>
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<b>From</b>: Ali Hussein <u></u>
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<br><b>Cc</b>: Wambua, Christopher; World Conference on International Telecommunications; <u></u> <u></u>; info; <a href="mailto:isoc@orion.my.co.ke" target="_blank">isoc@orion.my.co.ke</a> <u></u>
<br><b>Sent</b>: Tue Sep 25 03:59:04 2012<div><div><br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to developing world
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<div>Apologies for cross-listing </div><div><br></div><div>John</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your candid answer. Indeed we must find time to read the proposals and give our input. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards <br>
<br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><br></div><div>+254 773/713 601113</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhoneŽ</div></div><div><br>On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:16 PM, "Omo, John" <<a href="mailto:Omo@cck.go.ke" target="_blank">Omo@cck.go.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p><font color="navy" face="Arial">
Ali.<br><br>Thanks to you and others who have come through on this subject and uplouded the CCK initiative.<br><br>Let me say that there cannot be a clear-cut answer to your querry. One has to carefully study the Proposals and consider the merits behind every of them. In general, however, the philosophy behind the AfCPs gravitate around the 2nd and 3rd Schools/'Synopsis.'<br>
<br>Let's please study the Proposals and offer substantive comments noting to cf with Proposals from the other ITU Regions. Such will assist in conducting a face-to-face national consultative process, enriching the AfCPs and during Treaty negotiations in Dubai.<br>
<br>Omo, john.<br>Chair, Nat. Prep. Com.<br></font></p>
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<br><b>Sent</b>: Mon Sep 24 20:16:24 2012<br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to developing world
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<div>Wambua</div><div><br></div><div>That's a good synopsis of the 3 schools of thought. I haven't had a chance of reading our position (Kenya & Africa) so would appreciate if you could tell us in which of these 3 schools do we fall in?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I will definitely find time to read the position. Thanks once again for the work put it on this.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>Ali Hussein</div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>+254 773/713 601113</span></div>
<div><br></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Sep 24, 2012, at 3:39 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <<a href="mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke" target="_blank">Wambua@cck.go.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Walu<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>It is important to note that all
the regions of the world have different positions on the ITRs. There are those
who are of the view that the ITRs should remain as they are. Another school of
thought argues that a review is necessary but should be minimal, only
addressing those provisions that have been overtaken by technological and
market developments. The third school argues that review should be extensive as
the global telecoms industry has changed enormously since 1988. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The outcome of WCIT-12 will be a
product of negotiations/trade-off between these three schools of thought. And
that why all regions of the world are developing regional positions so that
they can have higher leverage in the negotiations. What Kenya, or Africa for
that matter, will take to Dubai will therefore have to be subjected to this
process. I believe the ITU shall publish the final ITRs (Final Acts) after the
conference. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> I hope this is helpful. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Wambua<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Walubengo J
[<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 24, 2012 3:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ali Hussein<br>
<b>Cc:</b> World Conference on International Telecommunications; KICTAnet ICT
Policy Discussions; info<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to
developing world<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Mich/Ali,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>I must
also commend CCK on this process of vigorous engagement with
Stakeholders. I think it is either the new broom (read DG) sweeps better
syndrome or the new constitution in action - but perhaps a mixture of both
factors...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>walu.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>nb: I do
hope eventually they share what they will present at WCIT. They ofcourse
are not compelled to take in everything from stakeholders but stakeholders have
a right to know what was picked/ignored from their input.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Ali
Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <br>
<b>Cc:</b> World Conference on International Telecommunications
<<a href="mailto:WCIT-12@cck.go.ke" target="_blank">WCIT-12@cck.go.ke</a>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>; info <<a href="mailto:info@cck.go.ke" target="_blank">info@cck.go.ke</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 24, 2012 11:05 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Harm caused by ill-thought out WCIT proposals to
developing world</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Michuki<br>
<br>
I would have to agree with you on this.<br>
<br>
Ali Hussein</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>On Mon,
Sep 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Michuki Mwangi <<a href="mailto:michuki@swiftkenya.com" target="_blank">michuki@swiftkenya.com</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>Hi
Everyone,<br>
<br>
<br>
I have to say that am impressed with the process that the GoK and CCK<br>
has taken on the WCIT-12 debate. IMHO this is a proudly Kenyan moment.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Michuki.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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On 9/24/12 7:55 AM, Wambua, Christopher wrote:<br>
> TIM and Listers,<br>
><br>
> The African Common Proposals (which Kenya through CCK has been involved<br>
> in their development)are available on the CCK website at<br>
> <a href="http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/Public_Consultation.html" target="_blank">http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/Public_Consultation.html</a><br>
><br>
> CCK is inviting comments on the review to the ITRs to enrich the African<br>
> Common Proposals (ACPs), and where necessary, to develop national<br>
> positions ahead of the WCIT-12.<br>
><br>
> The African region is meeting in Accra, Ghana, this week for third<br>
> African region preparatory meeting for the World Telecommunications<br>
> Standardization Assembly and the WCIT-12.<br>
><br>
> The revised ACPs that will come out the Ghana meeting shall be uploaded<br>
> on the CCK website to keep the local ICT community and stakeholders<br>
> fully apprised on what is happening in this space.<br>
><br>
> CCK is planning to convene a stakeholders meeting on WCIT-12 after the<br>
> Ghana meeting (and after compiling comments on the African proposals to<br>
> the review of ITRs) to discuss the final proposals that Kenya shall be<br>
> taking to WCIT-12 in Dubai.<br>
><br>
> I hope this sheds light on this matter.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Christopher Wambua<br>
> Manager/Communications<br>
> Consumer and Public Affairs Division<br>
> Communications Commission of Kenya<br>
> P.O. Box 14448, NAIROBI 00800<br>
> KENYA<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> Behalf O</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">-- <br>
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