[kictanet] KeBS to re-emburse fake phone owners

Tue Oct 2 15:42:14 EAT 2012

@Bosire,

Are you trying to justify illiteracy as an excuse in these circumstances?
Anyone who can use a phone is considered literate enough:-)
Well, whoever goes to the shop to buy a phone shoulders the responsibility
of reading and understanding the T&Cs. There is no excuse whatsoever. The
literacy is assumed and NOT excused.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Nyagitari Bosire <nyagitari at gmail.com>wrote:

> @Wash
>
> Your assertion that we ought to read the fine print does not always hold
> true since few can appreciate T&Cs. I was out off town on Friday and I can
> assure you I interacted with may folks who were worried stiff of losing
> there phones due to the switch off. 90% of that number cannot understand
> any fine print! KeBS and other related bodies must do there jobs as
> consumer protection ought to be in the spirit of there work.
>
> Nyaggs
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It's not possible to involve the CFK in this. It's not their
>> responsibility to ensure that you always buy genuine merchandise! That is
>> your personal responsibility. Everyone knows that cheap is expensive. If
>> you bought this phone from a shop, take it back to them and lay a claim for
>> indemnity, but read the fine print on the receipt they issued you with
>> before you go back to them!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, meshack emakunat <memakunat at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear listers
>>> where is the so called Consumer Federation of Kenya in all this, what is
>>> there role anyways. I am a victim and am "innocent".
>>>
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* memakunat at yahoo.com
>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:11 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] KeBS to re-emburse fake phone owners
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Bobby,
>>>
>>> The Kenyan border is quite porous - by design and I can tell you that
>>> there is very little you, as Bobby, can do to change that, because it is as
>>> difficult as  fighting the Mafia - or come closer home, the hard drug
>>> menace.
>>> There are so many vested interests which make the border porous and this
>>> starts with the Border Agency officers and goes along top include the
>>> security officers, because at the top of the pyramid is a well-connected
>>> fellow. If you stop his merchandise from coming in, there are two possible
>>> scenarios: Either you get transferred or eliminated if you become a thorn
>>> in the flesh. That is why there is no reason to blame KEBS, because they
>>> don't quite police the borders - it isn't their mandate! Theirs is to
>>> verify/certify.
>>> You must be quite naive (kidding!) to expect KEBS to control imports
>>> sanctioned by fat cats<LOL> when they can't even enforce standards on
>>> foodstuff found in our supermarkets!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We all wish the headline in tomorrows paper would be "KeBS to refund
>>> fake owners" as to the best of my knowledge they are mandated and funded by
>>> the tax payer to make sure that the items that come into the country meet
>>> certain required usage and safety standards.
>>>
>>> Evert time I import IT items I am charged a fee for KeBS certification
>>> what do they do with the money collected if millions of fake (no IMEI
>>> numbers) mobile phones, many of which where shipped in container loads,
>>> passed right under their nooses.
>>>
>>> As with most issues we have a tendency of barking up the wrong tree,
>>> suing CCK is dealing with a symptom instead of dealing with the core
>>> problem which is a standards body that does no work, its time we
>>> re-outsourced the function.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
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>>
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>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>> Nairobi,KE
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-- 
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254733744121/+254722743223
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