[kictanet] KeBS to re-emburse fake phone owners

Tue Oct 2 12:46:04 EAT 2012

I just fail to understand what is fake and what is not fake. i have a samsung mobile phone that does not give me an imei number upon pressing the *#06#. then i check at the back and find the imei on the bar code then send it to the 1555 the it turns out that the phone is original. note that the phone was bought from a trusted supermarket. as much as its my responsibility to know what am buyintg at what point do you draw the line that a particular product is fake especially in the above situation.

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 From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
To: memakunat at yahoo.com 
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It's not possible to involve the CFK in this. It's not their responsibility to ensure that you always buy genuine merchandise! That is your personal responsibility. Everyone knows that cheap is expensive. If you bought this phone from a shop, take it back to them and lay a claim for indemnity, but read the fine print on the receipt they issued you with before you go back to them!

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, meshack emakunat <memakunat at yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear listers
>where is the so called Consumer Federation of Kenya in all this, what is there role anyways. I am a victim and am "innocent".
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>Hello Bobby,
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>The Kenyan border is quite porous - by design and I can tell you that there is very little you, as Bobby, can do to change that, because it is as difficult as  fighting the Mafia - or come closer home, the hard drug menace.
>There are so many vested interests which make the border porous and this starts with the Border Agency officers and goes along top include the security officers, because at the top of the pyramid is a well-connected fellow. If you stop his merchandise from coming in, there are two possible scenarios: Either you get transferred or eliminated if you become a thorn in the flesh. That is why there is no reason to blame KEBS, because they don't quite police the borders - it isn't their mandate! Theirs is to verify/certify.
>You must be quite naive (kidding!) to expect KEBS to control imports sanctioned by fat cats<LOL> when they can't even enforce standards on foodstuff found in our supermarkets!
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>On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>We all wish the headline in tomorrows paper would be "KeBS to refund fake owners" as to the best of my knowledge they are mandated and funded by the tax payer to make sure that the items that come into the country meet certain required usage and safety standards.
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>>Evert time I import IT items I am charged a fee for KeBS certification what do they do with the money collected if millions of fake (no IMEI numbers) mobile phones, many of which where shipped in container loads, passed right under their nooses.
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>>As with most issues we have a tendency of barking up the wrong tree, suing CCK is dealing with a symptom instead of dealing with the core problem which is a standards body that does no work, its time we re-outsourced the function.
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>>Regards
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>>Robert Yawe
>>KAY System Technologies
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