[kictanet] Revisiting Deadly Thika Road

Wed May 16 18:52:00 EAT 2012

The laws are supposed to be deterrent but not too punitive. You cannot
take away a Matatu's TLB license because it has broken rules. That
would be punishing the investor who always wants the best from his
investment. Its like blacklisting a security firm because a guard was
found stealing.

Probably we should cultivate a sense of responsibility and ethics to
road users. Private car owners disobey traffic rules with the same
impunity as PSV vehicles.

On 16/05/2012, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
> When its everyone's duty then it becomes no-ones duty. Road signs are a
> basic necessity on a road and so is user education and enforcement of
> regulations. A matatu stopping on the highway to pick up passengers should
> loose its TLB license, driver should be arrested etc. is that 40
> million Kenyans responsibility?
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
> <solo.mburu at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Just a by the way, when the latest and unfortunate blast that hit a
>> Mombasa club yesterday, someone on Facebook aptly put the blame on
>> Prof. Saitoti, urging him to resign. I just couldn't understand the
>> unjustifiable rationale there, yet we harbour crooks in our midst and
>> fail to report them to law enforcers. Now back to this topic, I think
>> it's each person's responsibility to the well-being of all road users
>> on Thika Road or any other road for that matter. When a rogue matatu
>> driver decides to overlap or drives at devil's speed, the passengers
>> will urge him to go ahead, with zest, replicating the 'dereva tia
>> moto', attitude. Yes, each one of us is guilty, because we - from the
>> Minister in charge of roads, traffic cops, drivers and pedestrians -
>> have failed to take a collective responsibility on our roads. We need
>> to stand up and be active participants on how to make our roads safe.
>> It's not just the responsibility of the contractors (or government)
>> but each one of us.
>>
>> On 16/05/2012, otieno.barrack at gmail.com <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I like the way some of us  take things casually until that rogue driver
>> rams
>> > into you and maims you , I liken it to the way our football stars have
>> > abandoned the National team because of mediocre management yet instead
>> > of
>> > addressing the issue we call it whining and lack of patriotism, lest I
>> > forget we need 10 billion to fix our beautifull roads that were
>> > recently
>> > constructed no wonder MJ called us peculiar, tafakari hayo.
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
>> >
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>> kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack=gmail.com at lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
>> > Wed, 16 May 2012 08:26:40
>> > To: <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Revisiting Deadly Thika Road
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > On 16 May 2012 08:19, K Machuhi <kmachuhi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> This Thika Road whining is becoming rather tiring.
>> >> It is your duty as a driver to observe caution and to be your
>> >> brother's
>> >> keeper.
>> >> As a frequent user of the road (all of it) for the last 22 years, I
>> >> marvel
>> >> at the new piece of road we have there; as i marvel at recklessness of
>> >> some
>> >> drivers.
>> >>
>> >> May China's Wu Yi and others move their magic to Ngong road....
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> it is indeed sad when state officials defend obvious ills.
>> >>>
>> >>> There is a problem, everyone sees it but they would rather deny it
>> >>> exists
>> >>> and blame detractors. Whatever happened to standards?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Listers,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Very sad indeed to hear the Minister of Roads (today on TV) defend
>> >>>> Thika
>> >>>> road unconvincingly!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When things are not done well, we must be honest enough to
>> >>>> acknowledge
>> >>>> where things went wrong and to come up with some proposals on what
>> will
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> done to improve the works and address the high road carnage. Rather
>> >>>> than
>> >>>> resort to the usual defensive position - that does not help anyone
>> >>>> Minister
>> >>>> Bett. I would have expected you to have an open forum to discuss the
>> >>>> concerns of Kenyans rather than be so dismissive!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Despite being assured that the issue had been brought to the
>> >>>> attention
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> Eng Kidenda, there is no response to date! Grace, I wonder if you
>> >>>> had
>> >>>> any
>> >>>> luck in reaching Eng Kidenda for an open debate.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Edith, Concerned Kenyan Citizen!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>
> Mark Mwangi
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