[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 58, Issue 131

Tue Mar 27 08:13:52 EAT 2012

I know of a few countries in Africa that have prospered because of minerals. Botswana and South Africa come to mind. Kenya can join that exceptional list
Herbert

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers (justus wamukoya)
   2. Re: #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers (Solomon Mb?r? Kamau)

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:35:12 +0100 (BST)
From: justus wamukoya <jwamukoya1 at yahoo.com>
To: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
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Hello Listers
?
Oil or no oil the entire Kenyan population has to re-think its approach to handling of national issues. We all need to do some soul searching to see how we can rediscover what was one a society with some values. Our leaders past and present have exercised so much impunity that is has now afflicted the rest of the community. We live, eat, preach?and dream politics while our development blueprints take decades to take off.
?
I am in China at the moment and as we all know this country has achieved what it has because of high discipline and respect for order. No?country can develop without a high sense of responsibility on the part of everyone.?In my view, with our disorder, especially among those we have assigned responsibility to mind our national purse, oil discovery may come to naught and development plans such as?Konza city and Vision 2030 may simply falter.
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Wamukoya
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--- On Mon, 26/3/12, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
To: jwamukoya1 at yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Monday, 26 March, 2012, 15:57

I am not excited at all. I just came back from Nigeria where you have to queue for hours in a filling station, sometimes days. Filling up your car is a source of stress and you have to really plan for it. Maybe oil will make our incessant political infighting getting bloodier. Konza City excites me more than the discovery of oil. With Konza, we have to keep thinking of how to bake the national cake. With oil, we will just be fighting over the sharing of oil wealth. We will probably become lazy, and yes, probably more corrupt.

Ikua

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook at gmail.com> wrote:

Read somewhere, in response to this same announcement "We still want elections ?in 2012" :-/?

That aside, can new found wealth mean faster attainment of Vision 2030? Will we be like Ghana and start making strides or like (insert country with natural resource related civil strife here)? Or can we take a stab at Vision 2020 instead thanks to oil wealth?

On 26 March 2012 14:09, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

#TurkanaOil is now trending worldwide on Twitter.

Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati, 

do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?

walu.

--- On Sat, 3/24/12, alice at apc.org <alice at apc.org> wrote:

From: alice at apc.org <alice at apc.org>
Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report
To: jwalu at yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM

ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and
Recommendations for? public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012. 

see:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm

Best
Alice

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:38:42 +0300
From: Solomon Mb?r? Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
To: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com>
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
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On 26 March 2012 17:06, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com> wrote:

> It shocks me that people go to the BBC to confirm news that has been
> reported by local media.
>

I wish there was a like button to this post. I'd have said the same. Maybe
we have 'lost' confidence and trust with the local media.

>
> On 26 March 2012 16:00, Daniel Waweru <daniel.waweru at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Confirmed by the BBC about an hour ago.
>>
>> Daniel Waweru
>> www.kenyaimagine.com
>> Art and analysis; debate and opinion.
>>
>>
>> On 26 March 2012 13:36, mudii aradi <mudii_aradi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Oil is not new to Africa nor will renew our economy, for as long as we
>>> want to eat the cake before we bake it we shall all but be kicking each
>>> other in the teeth trying to allocate ourselves a natural resource found in
>>> the midst of forgotten Kenyans. With all its resource wealth, DRC Congo is
>>> still a battlefield. lets all vote in leaders not preachers, statesmen and
>>> women not people who will make the Turukanas stateless. god save Kenya from
>>> our gluttony and greed then maybe then will our oil become our wealth 10
>>> years down the road , hope we live to still have a country to be proud of
>>> and not another Ogoni massacre
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 04:09:08 -0700
>>> From: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
>>> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> To: mudii_aradi at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> #TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now
>>> trending worldwide on Twitter.
>>>
>>> Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
>>>
>>> do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it
>>> might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is
>>> through black gold and not ICTs?
>>>
>>> walu.
>>>
>>> --- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice at apc.org <alice at apc.org>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: alice at apc.org <alice at apc.org>
>>> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft
>>> report
>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
>>>
>>> ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR
>>> -RT) released its Draft Report and
>>> Recommendations for  public comments . Comment period closes April 30,
>>> 2012.
>>>
>>> see:
>>>
>>> http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Alice
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