[kictanet] Status of IPv6 deployment in Kenya
Michuki Mwangi
michuki at swiftkenya.com
Tue Mar 20 10:20:12 EAT 2012
Wash, et al,
Let me try and clarify one thing. There will never be demand for IPv6
just like there was never a demand for IPv4 because users don't care
much about the underlying technology. However, the users will provide a
constant demand for old and new Internet services.
As a result if you are an ISP intending to remain in the Internet
business you need to have the resources to deliver these services
competitively. Failure to plan and deploy IPv6 will mean that the ISP
will have two options;
1. Deploy expensive IPv4 to IPv6 translation devices or,
2. Incur costs due to early/unplanned upgrade cycle.
Mind you, the issue is not the core network, but the edge and CPE units
that have long upgrade cycles. In addition, most of these consumer
devices lack a firmware update option.
Remember for an ISP to remain competitive the subscriber's entry and
monthly recurrent costs have to be low. CPE costs are often met by the
subscriber fully either on entry, or through a recovery fee charged
nominally each month for a period often defined as the service/useful
life of the product.
Considering that in Africa we are largely consumers of the Internet, the
early adopters (Asia, Europe and the US) have already started utilizing
IPv6 thus requiring ISPs to deploy either of the above 2 options.
Failure to which would lead to inability to serve demanding subscribers.
Lastly, being first movers or what is referred to as "early adopters"
has its distinct advantages as follows;
1. Operational experience in IPv6 which is currently limited globally
2. Understand the business case and opportunities brought by IPv6
3. Working with vendors to develop solutions (read free testing gear)
4. Migration paths are aligned with hardware upgrade cycles (no
surprises on upgrades)
5. Early adopters are not exposed to last minute issues like high
hardware costs, staff training costs, consultants/solution implementers
costs, etc. Remember when you implement a solution late its a
product/service which has to be procured and implemented. When you adopt
early, there are often no procurement costs, training is more of R&D and
no external experts since the inhouse engineers the solution implementers.
Regards,
Michuki.
On 3/19/12 1:36 PM, Barrack Otieno wrote:
> I agree with you Wash, very good points.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Barrack Otieno
> <otieno.barrack at gmail.com <mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Well said Walu , what you didnt say is why? i listened to Michuki
> recently outlining his vision of 70% local traffic and 30 Percent
> International for the African continent, he had very good economic
> arguments for the same, the problem is we are not telling businesses
> and users why they they need to embrace IPv6, we seem to be focusing
> on the hows, i suppose that is the reason we keep lagging, Internet
> economic still dont make much sense in this part of the world since
> we seem to abhor research and innovation.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com
> <mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Wash,
>
> Allow me to focus on the "RIR"- Regional Internet Registry
> (www.Afrinic.net <http://www.Afrinic.net>) questions since I
> have some affiliation there.
>
> 1. You are right that RIR should push this agenda and Afrinic
> has been doing so over the years by training techies across
> africa on IPv6. But the major problem as we discovered is
> really is NOT lack of technical IPv6 skills; it seems the IPv6
> problem is more business rather than technical. Take Safaricom
> for example, with its 20m+ subscriber base, and with highly
> qualified Internet engineers, why dont they adopt and deploy
> IPv6 en-masse? Its a business call, the engineers are there and
> ready to deploy, the Business leaders may not be.
>
> 2. And then again, one cannot blame the Business leaders.
> Business leaders make the call for IPv6, if the customer
> demands. But really, a customer has never seen and does NOT want
> an IPv4 number, let alone an IPv6 number. Its none of their
> business. So we have a chicken and egg problem, Business leader
> waiting for customer to demand, customer will never demand for IPv6.
>
> 3. Preferred solution. Stumble across an IPv6 Killer
> application. Something that runs (purely) on IPv6 and is
> popular. This would then force Telcos to go in that direction.
> Unfortunately this magic bullet application does not exist, and
> is likely not to exist because of deliberate effort to
> interoperate v4 and v6.
>
> 4. Current Solution. For regions e.g Asia Pacific, Europe and
> soon USA, where IPv4 is (getting) depleted. They have been
> forced to adopt IPv6. And this answers you last issue - staying
> ahead. These folks will be "staying ahead" in terms of IPv6
> experience/deployement/knowhow. They will enjoy 1st mover
> advantages that Africa will be buying from them in years ahead.
>
> walu.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington /<odhiambo at gmail.com
> <mailto:odhiambo at gmail.com>>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com
> <mailto:odhiambo at gmail.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Status of IPv6 deployment in Kenya
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com <mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 12:46 PM
>
>
> Hi Walu,
>
> What was the mandate of the Kenyan IPv6 Task Force? I hope
> it's not just another boardroom Task Force.
>
> I saw the following on FaceBook yesterday:
>
>
> "When Asia trained engineers Africa trained
> experts in debate. Can't fix roads by simply
> organizing stakeholder consultations."
>
> It can be further said that we can't fix IPv6 by simply
> appointing Task Forces. Let me explain why.
> The adoption of IPv6 should be driven, first by need, then
> by the entities responsible for assigning the IPs. I think
> it should be that simple. I still don't see why it needed a
> Task Force.
>
> Let me look at this from the simplest terms:
>
> I think the pace of adoption does not have to be driven by
> pressure from other sides of the planet, but by the RIRs,
> but still based on need. An RIR may shout from the rooftops
> that they have depleted their IPv4 space, but "allocation"
> and "assignment" are two different things, right?
> They may be over with their allocation, while the entities
> allocated those IPs haven't assigned all of them, and are
> still comfortable. Now, does the RIR start forcing the
> entities (mostly ISPs) to start using their IPv6
> allocations? No.
>
> Time will come when the IPv6 space will start being utilized.
>
> I don't see how the deployment of IPv6 makes us "stay
> ahead"of anyone though. It's just an IP address. Staying
> ahead depends on economic factors, no?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:28, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Paul/Barrack,
>
> I agree, dismal performance. And to imagine the rest of
> East Africa expects us to be leading on this front, it
> is truly a shameful performance. And that reminds me,
> the PS Ndemo did inaugurated the Kenyan IPv6 Task force
> 2yrs ago - of which I am a member but I will not name
> the others for security reasons
>
> Perhaps, there could be some synergy with the ISOC_Ke
> guys on this to make sure Kenya stays in the forefront
> of promoting IPv6 usage.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Barrack Otieno
> /<otieno.barrack at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com>>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Status of IPv6 deployment in
> Kenya
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 12:16 PM
>
>
> Thanks Paul.
>
> Looking forwad to the ISOC_ke IP V6 program under
> your leadership.
>
> Best Regards
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Paul M
> <paulitrix at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=paulitrix@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Take a look at this page. Gives revealing but
> dismal statistics over the state of IPv6 in Kenya.
>
> http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/detailed.php?country=ke
>
>
> --
> :-) Paul M
>
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