[kictanet] ISP Mayhem

Moses Muya mouzmuyer at gmail.com
Thu Mar 15 12:14:59 EAT 2012


It looks like we are just about to turn this discussion into whether
Safaricom is good or not.If we do that,we will most definitely miss the
point of it.My allegiance,and I believe that of Yawe,is NOT to Safaricom
but to services that work.If Safaricom is the company giving these services
at the moment,we will be happy to subscribe to their services! Yesterday
when everyone was complaining about being offline ,the organisations using
their services were up and running! Do they suffer outages?Of course they
do!As somebody said ,they do not run equipment from heaven!

The 'vandalism bill' is long overdue if you ask me and so is good network
design from these service providers! Policies alone will not make companies
great,their commitment to providing good services will. If a company is
willing to invest billions in developing infrastructure but is not willing
to spend a couple of millions in safeguarding the same,they have
their priorities/policies wrong!

N.B : This is not a paid post,just a post by a happy client.

On 15 March 2012 11:33, Edwin Onchari <eonchari at lynxbits.com> wrote:

> Yawe,****
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> Paid or not, Safaricom has not been an exception in this mess…my
> organization and several others in the BPO/ITES industry whose lion’s share
> of clients are foreign, will find it a an uphill task in the foreseeable
> future convincing our clients that we are a safe bet for their business. We
> had just overcome this issue when the fiber landed ( I remember endless
> meetings to explain why we had latencies of over 2-3000ms just a couple of
> years ago), and now this!. The vandalism bill is long overdue and should be
> enacted asap among other measures to sort this out once and for all.****
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> Best Regards,****
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> Edwin ****
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> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto:
> kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf
> Of *robert yawe
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:26 AM
> *To:* Edwin
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> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem****
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> Hi,****
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> Safaricom is up and running with a few expected hiccups, why don't we just
> ask them how they have been able to keep their clients operational even
> with the cutting of all fibre cables.****
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> Redundancy is a cost and needs to be met by someone, so Eric the question
> should be "how much redundancy are you willing to pay for?"****
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> Why hasn't anyone asked where exactly is this point where all the cables
> from Nairobi to Mombasa converge?  The Teams & EASSy cables where cut by an
> anchor because they run parallel and next to each other, assuming they are
> not one and the same cable.****
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> Regards****
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> PS.  Just incase my intentions are misunderstood I would like to make it
> clear that this is not a paid post but even if it was would I really
> confirm it,  hmmmm.****
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>  ****
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> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya****
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> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696****
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> *From:* Eric M.K Osiakwan <emko at internetresearch.com.gh>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 18:31
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem****
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> ......i would be slow to make this a public policy challenge and rather
> beg the question, "what happened to redundancy in network planning?"****
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> Eric here****
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> On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:00, Harry Delano wrote:****
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> Many thanks, all..
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> Looks we all crippled now.., right..? Time to consider some of this
> infrastructure as strategic to National security..
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> Bw. PS...?
>
> Harry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francis Hook [mailto:francis.hook at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:31 PM
> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISP Mayhem
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> And I think we need more diversity and more redundancy on the
> terrestrial back bone - if two backhaul links between NBO and MSA go
> down, its probably worse than one submarine cable cut.
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> On 14 March 2012 12:28, Francis Hook <francis.hook at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Zuku, TKL and Airtel too were down and seem partially restored  - word****
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> from Zuku is that a link between NBO and MSA was affected.****
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> On 14 March 2012 10:52, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:****
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> Who has any idea what’s happening. The List is too silent, or are we****
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> affected****
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> by the connectivity break-down…?****
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> Seems Safaricom and Orange, are the only ones still standing on their****
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> ****
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> as****
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> per the last check..****
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> Anyone..?****
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> Harry****
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Moses Muya.
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