[kictanet] Thika Road Debate

Wed Jun 27 12:48:40 EAT 2012

Daktari, as much as you use the term "relative", I would not use the terms
"advanced" and "Kenya" in the same sentence.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>wrote:

>   Thanks Evans, Gilda. What you guys say is true - I was just giving my
> observation after visiting some African countries. Most of the developments
> we have undergone have been through the efforts of the private sector. Take
> for example the Industrial Area in Nairobi. It is huge for African
> standards. Manufacturers and business people there are busy producing
> despite what you have noted - the potholed roads outside, traffic jams due
> to poor planning, unreliable water supply, power outages, etc. not to
> mention corruption. If we are already advanced relative to other African
> countries then where would we be if things were in order?
>
>  On Wed, Jun 27, 2012, at 09:02 AM, Gilda Odera wrote:
>
>  Evans,
>
>  I agree with you. Much as we are ahead of others in the continent, let
> us not blind ourselves with that. We must use the highest benchmark and aim
> much higher. It is true, we ought to be so much further, considering our
> capabilities.We have a lot of catching up to do- a great deal of it too!
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Gilda
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com>
>  To: godera at skyweb.co.ke
>  Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:50 AM
>  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate
>
> Daktari,
> I beg to disagree with your statement that Kenya is a very advanced
> country in many respects. I would say that we are about 50 years behind
> where we should be. The roads that we are now building should have been
> done in the 60s. For instance, how do you say that we are advanced when we
> cant even get water to our houses in the capital city? Where I live, we get
> water once a week when we are lucky. And that is supposed to be a  middle
> class housing estate in the capital city? I know many other places where
> they are not so lucky.
>
> Just look at our roads in Nairobi (dont even go to Moyale). Have they
> repaired the roads in Westlands? We have pot holes in the CBD of Nairobi!
> Even smaller banana republics in Africa have smoother roads. We have sewage
> spewing out of manholes all over. Our people are dying of hunger, whether
> it rains or shines. Public hospitals are a shame. Public transport is a
> disaster. But we are used to all that!
>
> While we may be doing better than several of our neighbours, that is
> basically our biggest problem. We compare ourselves with Somalia and we
> call ourselves advanced!
>
> Evans
>
>  On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:44 PM, waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>wrote:
>
>    Overall I think Mr Gaitho is right. Kenya is a very advanced country
> in many respects but the poor roads are an enigma. One does not need to go
> far. I was impressed with the roads in Addis Ababa. Someone told me that
> the Addis-Moyale road is tarmacked smooth while the Nairobi-Moyale one,
> which is shorter, is not.
>  One factual correction though, The Kenya Rural Roads Authority and Kenya
> Urban Roads Authority are not under the purvue of Eng. Kidenda. He is in
> charge only of the Kenya National Highways Authority.
>
>  Waudo
>
>  On Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 06:29 PM, Grace Githaiga wrote:
>
>
>  Listers
>
>  I think Macharia Gaitho is referring to our discussions on roads. For
> those who missed, the link posted below.
>
>  Let’s not gloat about building great roads until we venture out of Kenya
> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1435452/-/lqcdb7z/-/index.html
>
>  Rgds
>  GG
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