[kictanet] Thika Road Debate

Wed Jun 27 11:22:53 EAT 2012

@ Rad¡

My 2 cents would be simple: We are a nation that likes duplicating
things around, not just in the public service, but also in the private
world. The government has numerous overlapping departments at its
disposal. For instance the Health ( Ministry of Public Health and
Sanitation and Ministry of Medical Services); Education (Min of
Education(?) and Min of Higher Education) etc; in private sector
Media(KUJ and a conglomerate of associations for media for women only
etc) and others.

I think we are just good at outdoing each others instead of improving
the existing bodies.

@Evans,

It's pity when we just look at Somalia and whoop! We say we are
developed. So pitiful.

On 27/06/2012, K Machuhi <kmachuhi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Great roads in the moon and mars do not help me.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Evans,
>>
>> I agree with you. Much as we are ahead of others in the continent, let us
>> not blind ourselves with that. We must use the highest benchmark and aim
>> much higher. It is true, we ought to be so much further, considering our
>> capabilities.We have a lot of catching up to do- a great deal of it too!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gilda
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com>
>> *To:* godera at skyweb.co.ke
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:50 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Thika Road Debate
>>
>> Daktari,
>> I beg to disagree with your statement that Kenya is a very advanced
>> country in many respects. I would say that we are about 50 years behind
>> where we should be. The roads that we are now building should have been
>> done in the 60s. For instance, how do you say that we are advanced when
>> we
>> cant even get water to our houses in the capital city? Where I live, we
>> get
>> water once a week when we are lucky. And that is supposed to be a  middle
>> class housing estate in the capital city? I know many other places where
>> they are not so lucky.
>>
>> Just look at our roads in Nairobi (dont even go to Moyale). Have they
>> repaired the roads in Westlands? We have pot holes in the CBD of Nairobi!
>> Even smaller banana republics in Africa have smoother roads. We have
>> sewage
>> spewing out of manholes all over. Our people are dying of hunger, whether
>> it rains or shines. Public hospitals are a shame. Public transport is a
>> disaster. But we are used to all that!
>>
>> While we may be doing better than several of our neighbours, that is
>> basically our biggest problem. We compare ourselves with Somalia and we
>> call ourselves advanced!
>>
>> Evans
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:44 PM, waudo siganga
>> <emailsignet at mailcan.com>wrote:
>>
>>>   Overall I think Mr Gaitho is right. Kenya is a very advanced country
>>> in many respects but the poor roads are an enigma. One does not need to
>>> go
>>> far. I was impressed with the roads in Addis Ababa. Someone told me that
>>> the Addis-Moyale road is tarmacked smooth while the Nairobi-Moyale one,
>>> which is shorter, is not.
>>> One factual correction though, The Kenya Rural Roads Authority and Kenya
>>> Urban Roads Authority are not under the purvue of Eng. Kidenda. He is in
>>> charge only of the Kenya National Highways Authority.
>>>
>>> Waudo
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 06:29 PM, Grace Githaiga wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Listers
>>>
>>> I think Macharia Gaitho is referring to our discussions on roads. For
>>> those who missed, the link posted below.
>>>
>>> Let’s not gloat about building great roads until we venture out of Kenya
>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1435452/-/lqcdb7z/-/index.html
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>> GG
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