[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89 - ITU and bottom up approaches?
alice at apc.org
alice at apc.org
Wed Jun 20 19:10:28 EAT 2012
@walu, I have very high hopes and "faith" :) (hope I am not living in
wonderland). It has happened in the Netherlands, see later post, it can
happen, I believe WSIS and some of our very good examples have provided
for new ways of policy development.
Best
Alice
> @Alice,
>
> You have been on the ICT International scene longer than most of us and so
> I find it interesting that you now expect ITU and its Government
> membership to "consult" stakeholders before they vote on an issue...
>
> Plse remember to ping/wake me up when that happens :-).
>
> walu.
>
> --- On Wed, 6/20/12, alice at apc.org <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>
> From: alice at apc.org <alice at apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 6:30 PM
>
> Hi Ory and all
>
> I am not sure there is any African country that has made the effort to
> organise national level consultations but if we borrow a leaf from our
> past experience in developing ICT related policies and regulations,
> including the most recent data protection and FOI discussions, it would be
> important for national consultations on ITRs.
>
> Best
>
> Alice
>
>> Alice,
>> On the ITU national consultation process, I could be wrong but I'm yet
> to see even one national process in Africa...the positions seem to have
> been consolidated within the ATU process, and not sure how bottom up or
> open to comment that is. So the rhetoric that the ITU is trying to
> fight is not being helped by the opaqueness re the process by people can
> contribute / participate.
>> Ory
>> I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/
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>> 1. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and
>> the ITRs] (Ali Hussein)
>> 2. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and
>> the ITRs] (alice at apc.org)
>> 3. Broadcast, Film & Music Africa Conference, Nairobi 10-11
> July
>> (Sean Moroney)
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:51:55 +0300
>> From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>> To: alice at apc.org
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications
>> about ITU and the ITRs]
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>> Alice
>>
>> Very useful and vindication of the process we have started. Thanks!
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > I could send to you a much longer list of similar articles, blogs
>> and
>> > publications about alleged ITU plans to take control of the
> Internet. I
>> > could also send to you many which state the contrary. But none of
> this
>> > will be of any use.
>> >
>> > The last meeting of the Council Working Group (CWG) for WCIT
> started this
>> > morning 20 June and ends on 22 June. Find attached the speech of
> ITU
>> > Secretary-General, Dr. Hamadoun I. Tour?, delivered today at the
> opening
>> > of this last CWG WCIT meeting.
>> >
>> > ITU has 193 Member States. The decision on the content of the
> revised ITRs
>> > will be made by ITU Membership at the end of this year (3-14
> December)
>> > during the WCIT in Dubai.
>> > For those of you who represent your countries in ITU, I would
> encourage
>> > you to increase the involvement of the citizens of your countries
> in your
>> > national consultations during this process. I would also hope
> that your
>> > positions and views regarding ITU and the process to review the
> ITRs are
>> > based on actual proposals and discussions taking place in the
> appropriate
>> > ITU forums dealing with this subject and not necessarily on blogs,
>> > publications, speeches and media reports many of which do not
> accurately
>> > reflect the facts.
>> >
>> > Also, please find attached a WCIT background brief which I hope
> will be
>> > helpful to have a basic understanding of what the ITRs are and the
> roles
>> > of sovereign states in the process leading to the review of this
> Treaty
>> > (the ITRs). Please feel free to share this brief and the speech of
> ITU
>> > Secretary-General as you consider appropriate.
>> >
>> > For reliable and up-to-date information about ITU, the ITRs and
>> WCIT,
>> > please visit www.itu.int/wcit<http://www.itu.int/wcit>
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Alexander NTOKO
>> > ITU Representative (Observer) to the GAC
>> > Chief, Operations and Planning Department
>> > Telecommunication Standardization Bureau (TSB)
>> > International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> --
>>
>> *Ali Hussein|Managing Partner*
>>
>> *
>> *Telemedia Africa
>> Azania Technology Group
>>
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>>
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> but in
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> member,
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>> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:02:46 +0100 (BST)
>> From: alice at apc.org
>> To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications
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>> Dear Ali and all,
>>
>> Countries like the Netherlands, reported that they have held
>> national
>> consultations (workshops) to discuss these issues and develop a
> national
>> position, while others like the US mentioned they have made the WCIT
>> documents available to their constituencies.
>>
>> This is the bottom up approach that the ITU SG spoke about regarding
> the
>> revision of the ITRs including the issue "openness and
>> transparency
>> beginning with public access to various documents.
>>
>> We have had a great tradition/practice since our Ministry was
>> created,
>> where we have discussed critical policies and regulations as a
> result of
>> the open policy window provided by our government.
>>
>> For this instance, we should ideally follow the same multi
>> stakeholder
>> bottom consultations approach for both process and substantive
>> issues.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Alice
>>
>> > Alice
>> >
>> > Very useful and vindication of the process we have started.
>> Thanks!
>> >
>> > Ali Hussein
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > I could send to you a much longer list of similar articles,
> blogs and
>> > publications about alleged ITU plans to take control of the
>> Internet. I
>> > could also send to you many which state the contrary. But none
> of this
>> > will be of any use.
>> >
>> > The last meeting of the Council Working Group (CWG) for WCIT
> started
>> this
>> > morning 20 June and ends on 22 June. Find attached the
> speech of ITU
>> > Secretary-General, Dr. Hamadoun I. Tour?, delivered today at
>> the
>> opening
>> > of this last CWG WCIT meeting.
>> >
>> > ITU has 193 Member States. The decision on the content of the
>> revised ITRs
>> > will be made by ITU Membership at the end of this year (3-14
> December)
>> > during the WCIT in Dubai.
>> > For those of you who represent your countries in ITU, I would
>> encourage
>> > you to increase the involvement of the citizens of your
> countries in
>> your
>> > national consultations during this process. I would also
> hope that
>> your
>> > positions and views regarding ITU and the process to review
>> the
>> ITRs are
>> > based on actual proposals and discussions taking place in the
>> appropriate
>> > ITU forums dealing with this subject and not necessarily on
> blogs,
>> > publications, speeches and media reports many of which do not
>> accurately
>> > reflect the facts.
>> >
>> > Also, please find attached a WCIT background brief which I
> hope will be
>> > helpful to have a basic understanding of what the ITRs are and
> the
>> roles
>> > of sovereign states in the process leading to the review of
> this Treaty
>> > (the ITRs). Please feel free to share this brief and the
> speech of ITU
>> > Secretary-General as you consider appropriate.
>> >
>> > For reliable and up-to-date information about ITU, the ITRs
> and WCIT,
>> > please visit www.itu.int/wcit<http://www.itu.int/wcit>
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Alexander NTOKO
>> > ITU Representative (Observer) to the GAC
>> > Chief, Operations and Planning Department
>> > Telecommunication Standardization Bureau (TSB)
>> > International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > gac mailing list
>> > gac at gac.icann.org
>> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gac
>> >
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>> > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT
>> policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for
>> reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT
>> enabled growth and development.
>> >
>> > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable
>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's
>> times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or
>> personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares
>> or qualifications.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Ali Hussein|Managing Partner
>> >
>> >
>> > Telemedia Africa
>> > Azania Technology Group
>> >
>> > Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road
>> >
>> > P O Box 14556-00100
>> >
>> > Office: +254 737 751409
>> >
>> > Cell: +254 773/713 601113
>> >
>> > Nairobi, Kenya
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >
>> > Skype: abu-jomo
>> >
>> >
>> > "You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him,
> but
>> in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo
>> Lewis,
>> member, Advertising Hall of Fame
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:18:44 +0000
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>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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