[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89 - ITU and bottom up approaches?

alice at apc.org alice at apc.org
Wed Jun 20 19:10:28 EAT 2012


@walu, I have very high hopes and "faith" :) (hope I am not living in
wonderland). It has happened in the Netherlands, see later post, it can
happen, I believe WSIS and some of our very good examples have provided
for new ways of policy development.



Best
Alice

> @Alice,
>
> You have been on the ICT International scene longer than most of us and so
> I find it interesting that you now expect ITU and its Government
> membership to "consult" stakeholders before they vote on an issue...
>
> Plse remember to ping/wake me up when that happens :-).
>
> walu.
>
> --- On Wed, 6/20/12, alice at apc.org <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>
> From: alice at apc.org <alice at apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 6:30 PM
>
> Hi  Ory  and all
>
> I am not sure there is any African country that has made the effort to
> organise national level consultations but if  we borrow a leaf from our
> past experience in developing ICT related policies and regulations,
> including the most recent data protection and FOI discussions, it would be
> important  for national consultations on ITRs.
>
> Best
>
> Alice
>
>> Alice,
>> On the ITU national consultation process, I could be wrong but I'm yet
> to see even one national process in Africa...the positions seem to have
> been consolidated within the ATU process, and not sure how bottom up or
> open to comment that is.    So the rhetoric that the ITU is trying to
> fight is not being helped by the opaqueness re the process by people can
> contribute / participate.
>> Ory
>> I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/
>>
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>>       1. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and
>>          the ITRs] (Ali Hussein)
>>       2. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and
>>          the ITRs] (alice at apc.org)
>>       3. Broadcast, Film & Music Africa Conference,        Nairobi 10-11
> July
>>          (Sean Moroney)
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>>     Message: 1
>>     Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:51:55 +0300
>>     From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>>     To: alice at apc.org
>>     Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>     Subject: Re: [kictanet] Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications
>>            about ITU and the ITRs]
>>     Message-ID:
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>>     Alice
>>
>>     Very useful and vindication of the process we have started. Thanks!
>>
>>     Ali Hussein
>>
>>     On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>>
>>     >
>>     > Dear All,
>>     >
>>     > I could send to you a much longer list of similar articles, blogs
>> and
>>     > publications about alleged ITU plans to take control of the
> Internet.  I
>>     > could also send to you many which state the contrary. But none of
> this
>>     > will be of any use.
>>     >
>>     > The last meeting of the Council Working Group (CWG) for WCIT
> started this
>>     > morning 20 June and ends on 22 June.   Find attached the speech of
> ITU
>>     > Secretary-General,  Dr. Hamadoun I. Tour?, delivered today at the
> opening
>>     > of this last CWG WCIT meeting.
>>     >
>>     > ITU has 193 Member States. The decision on the content of the
> revised ITRs
>>     > will be made by ITU Membership at the end of this year (3-14
> December)
>>     > during the WCIT in Dubai.
>>     > For those of you who represent your countries in ITU,  I would
> encourage
>>     > you to increase the involvement of the citizens of your countries
> in your
>>     > national consultations during this process.   I would also hope
> that your
>>     > positions and views regarding ITU and the process to  review the
> ITRs are
>>     > based on actual proposals and discussions taking place in the
> appropriate
>>     > ITU forums dealing with this subject and not necessarily on blogs,
>>     > publications, speeches and media reports many of which do not
> accurately
>>     > reflect the facts.
>>     >
>>     > Also, please find attached a WCIT background brief which I hope
> will be
>>     > helpful to have a basic understanding of what the ITRs are and the
> roles
>>     > of sovereign states in the process leading to the review of this
> Treaty
>>     > (the ITRs). Please feel free to share this brief and the speech of
> ITU
>>     > Secretary-General as you consider appropriate.
>>     >
>>     > For reliable and up-to-date information about ITU, the ITRs and
>> WCIT,
>>     > please visit  www.itu.int/wcit<http://www.itu.int/wcit>
>>     >
>>     > Regards,
>>     >
>>     > Alexander NTOKO
>>     > ITU Representative (Observer) to the GAC
>>     > Chief, Operations and Planning Department
>>     > Telecommunication Standardization Bureau (TSB)
>>     > International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
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>>     Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:02:46 +0100 (BST)
>>     From: alice at apc.org
>>     To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>     Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>     Subject: Re: [kictanet] Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications
>>            about ITU and the ITRs]
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>>     Dear Ali and all,
>>
>>     Countries like the Netherlands, reported that they have held
>> national
>>     consultations  (workshops) to discuss these issues and develop a
> national
>>     position, while others like the US mentioned they have made the WCIT
>>     documents available to their constituencies.
>>
>>     This is the bottom up approach that the ITU SG spoke about regarding
> the
>>     revision of the ITRs including the  issue  "openness and
>> transparency
>>     beginning with public access to various documents.
>>
>>     We have had a great tradition/practice since our Ministry was
>> created,
>>     where we have discussed critical policies and regulations as a
> result of
>>     the open policy window provided by our government.
>>
>>     For this instance, we should ideally follow the same multi
>> stakeholder
>>     bottom consultations approach for both process and substantive
>> issues.
>>
>>     Best
>>
>>     Alice
>>
>>     > Alice
>>     >
>>     > Very useful and vindication of the process we have started.
>> Thanks!
>>     >
>>     > Ali Hussein
>>     >
>>     > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >     Dear All,
>>     >
>>     >     I could send to you a much longer list of similar articles,
> blogs and
>>     >     publications about alleged ITU plans to take control of the
>>     Internet.  I
>>     >     could also send to you many which state the contrary. But none
> of this
>>     >     will be of any use.
>>     >
>>     >     The last meeting of the Council Working Group (CWG) for WCIT
> started
>>     this
>>     >     morning 20 June and ends on 22 June.   Find attached the
> speech of ITU
>>     >     Secretary-General,  Dr. Hamadoun I. Tour?, delivered today at
>> the
>>     opening
>>     >     of this last CWG WCIT meeting.
>>     >
>>     >     ITU has 193 Member States. The decision on the content of the
>>     revised ITRs
>>     >     will be made by ITU Membership at the end of this year (3-14
> December)
>>     >     during the WCIT in Dubai.
>>     >     For those of you who represent your countries in ITU,  I would
>>     encourage
>>     >     you to increase the involvement of the citizens of your
> countries in
>>     your
>>     >     national consultations during this process.   I would also
> hope that
>>     your
>>     >     positions and views regarding ITU and the process to  review
>> the
>>     ITRs are
>>     >     based on actual proposals and discussions taking place in the
>>     appropriate
>>     >     ITU forums dealing with this subject and not necessarily on
> blogs,
>>     >     publications, speeches and media reports many of which do not
>>     accurately
>>     >     reflect the facts.
>>     >
>>     >     Also, please find attached a WCIT background brief which I
> hope will be
>>     >     helpful to have a basic understanding of what the ITRs are and
> the
>>     roles
>>     >     of sovereign states in the process leading to the review of
> this Treaty
>>     >     (the ITRs). Please feel free to share this brief and the
> speech of ITU
>>     >     Secretary-General as you consider appropriate.
>>     >
>>     >     For reliable and up-to-date information about ITU, the ITRs
> and WCIT,
>>     >     please visit  www.itu.int/wcit<http://www.itu.int/wcit>
>>     >
>>     >     Regards,
>>     >
>>     >     Alexander NTOKO
>>     >     ITU Representative (Observer) to the GAC
>>     >     Chief, Operations and Planning Department
>>     >     Telecommunication Standardization Bureau (TSB)
>>     >     International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
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>>     > --
>>     >
>>     > Ali Hussein|Managing Partner
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Telemedia Africa
>>     > Azania Technology Group
>>     >
>>     > Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road
>>     >
>>     > P O Box  14556-00100
>>     >
>>     > Office: +254 737 751409
>>     >
>>     > Cell:     +254 773/713 601113
>>     >
>>     > Nairobi, Kenya
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>     >
>>     > Skype: abu-jomo
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > "You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him,
> but
>>     in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo
>> Lewis,
>>     member, Advertising Hall of Fame
>>
>>
>>
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>>     Message: 3
>>     Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:18:44 +0000
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>>     To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>     Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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