[kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV

Fri Jul 20 10:14:10 EAT 2012

Hi Robert,

There are several FTA channels. They are those prefixed with SIGNET-*

I have a Garmin device which has built-in DVB-T1 which is receiving these
channels.

When this issue came up, I went to DSTv offices and asked them what would
happen with my  STB suppose I did not renew my subscription and they said
that I would still be able to view those FTA channels prefixed with SIGNET.

I therefore think your experience is solely a misnomer on the part of the
vendor who provided you with the STB and I think you should sue! ;-)

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:47 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Confirmed, there are currently no free to air digital channels.
>
> My subscription expired yesterday and there was no single channel
> available.
>
> Regards
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 July 2012, 13:10
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV
>
> Macharia,
> I assumed you have been following the debate.  Ordinariry we have been
> broadcasting in Standard Definition or SD.  This format is oll technology
> that makes people look fat on the screen.  High Definition or HD tends to
> give you an image closer to what you look in real life.  Better we now
> have 3D that is is even better but you will have to use special glass to
> see the effect.  Research is getting closer to get rid of the special
> glasses.  Soon we shall get even better technologies in broadcasting.
>
> In transmission we have several technologies including Satelitte or Direct
> to Home (DTH) and Digital Terrestrial TV (DTT) which removes the aspect of
> multiple infrastructure for Analogue TV the one we are used to.  To
> convert the digital signal to analogue TV you need a converter called a
> Set Top Box (STB).  This is a temporary measure until new digital TVs are
> in the market.
>
> The question was whether the set top can transmit both the SD and HD using
> the current STBs in the market.  I then responded that in DTH, the
> Personal Video Recorder (PVR) does that easily.
>
> PVR is a generic term for a device that is similar to a VCR but records
> television data in digital format as opposed to the VCRs analog format.
> VCRs utilize analog tapes to record and play programs broadcast over
> television, but PVRs encode video data in MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 formats and
> store the data in a hard drive. PVRs have all of the same functionality of
> VCRs (recording, playback, fast forwarding, rewinding, and pausing) plus
> the ability to instantly jump to any part of the program without having to
> rewind or fast forward the data stream.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
> > These acronyms are giving me a headache. Can't you geeks communicate in
> > simple English?
> >
> > Macharia Gaitho
> >
> >
> > On Jul 10, 2012, at 19:49, "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> John,
> >> Thanks for elaborating on these technologies.  Although I have not tried
> >> to play both SD and HD in any STB, the DTH PVR does it easily and I
> >> would
> >> suppose some STBs would have PVR capabilities.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >> Ndemo.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Wash
> >>> On my house still lies a Dish I used to receive internet 'downlink
> >>> service'
> >>> from intersat via DVB. the uplink was a traditional dialup, when I
> >>> moved
> >>> to
> >>> work at a Telco (Safaricom) I used service 951 for uplink, later
> >>> gprs/edge
> >>> and when 3G/HSDPA came I stopped the DVB service. I forgot about DVB in
> >>> the
> >>> general sense.
> >>>
> >>> Today
> >>> DVB-T2 holds so much promise. there is what badru put out but best of
> >>> all
> >>> is the fact that the chipsets in use can be easily extended to do so
> >>> much
> >>> more. that most are running quite a bit of readilly available open
> >>> distro's
> >>> based on open standards is awesome and means you can do things like
> >>> provide
> >>> internet services for the masses if a service provider is so inclined
> >>> to
> >>> do
> >>> so, push messages, use it as part of your connected home etc.
> >>>
> >>> Today I am lucky to be involved with two projects that deal with these
> >>> technologies. there is an interesting convergence of technologies and
> >>> ideas
> >>> such that while I am traditionally a 'networking guy', they might need
> >>> multicast in the future, Im also curious but: to take advantage of the
> >>> technologies end to end, it would be nice to know what the minimum
> >>> requirements set are, then an entreprenurial fellow can figure out what
> >>> value adds to throw in. This could be anything from localization to
> >>> customizing the boards and operating systems/firmware with additional
> >>> interfaces, like wifi or a fridge magnet:-).
> >>>
> >>> It is also the same technology DSTV use to do mobile TV. probably using
> >>> T2-lite. It is combined with the SIM card for admittance or lets just
> >>> call
> >>> it authentication and billing. Now technically you could have another
> >>> interface maybe a permanent IPv6 to help admittance ia all the tools
> >>> you
> >>> are used to like diameter. Do you start to see the potential? the
> >>> moment
> >>> you throw IP in the world just opens up.
> >>>
> >>> I'm also curious to see the quality requirements. Note in as much as
> >>> STB's
> >>> will be standardized, some operators might transmit lets say NTV in HD
> >>> while another does it in SD. The HD would definately cost abit more
> >>> based
> >>> on network resources consumed so the whole free to air remains free
> >>> will
> >>> also be an interesting one to watch.
> >>>
> >>> Lastly what DVB-T2 doesn't do LTE will take and carry home. When the
> >>> broadcasters release the frequencies for LTE. I guess listers and
> >>> creatives
> >>> here have their work cut out for them. Just like we are leading in
> >>> mobile
> >>> innovation, we can take this one on as well.
> >>>
> >>> now who said you cant be productive in traffic, or type long mail on
> >>> mobile
> >>> devices?:-)
> >>>
> >>> Gitau
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my Ipad
> >>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Odhiambo Washington
> >>> <odhiambo at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> +1 for this contribution, Badru. You've almost mirrored what John
> >>>> Gitau
> >>>> asked in his last post.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am tempted to ask Dr. Ndemo how they (CCK) arrived at the
> >>>> specification
> >>>> for the STBs. Were stakeholders involved? Were citizens input
> >>>> solicited?
> >>>> I
> >>>> am sure John Gitau would have had the platform to raise his questions
> >>>> if
> >>>> this was done.
> >>>> In the Kenyan context, it was T1, then at some point it was almost SDB
> >>>> (or
> >>>> what do they call that South American one), before the decision makers
> >>>> resolved that it would be DVB-T2.
> >>>> I think it's almost too late for Kenyans to decide on the
> >>>> specifications.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Badru Ntege <ntegeb at one2net.co.ug>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some new stbs are running on android which effectively means that we
> >>>>> should be able to deliver internet services to the home. Some of the
> >>>>> boxes
> >>>>> on the market even support wifi.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We need to think out of the box to solve our connectivity challenge
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> the home.  african countries now have the opportunity to create a
> >>>>> specification that manufacturers will create solutions for.  Just
> >>>>> think
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> the order quantity if Kenya said that all stbs should have full
> >>>>> Internet
> >>>>> capabilities.  The tools are here but we are still trying to fix
> >>>>> problems
> >>>>> with conventional thinking i think we should set the bar.  The market
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> deliver they cannot afford to ignore continent of 1 billion people.
> >>>>> However as long as we tow the itu line we will always end up with
> >>>>> others
> >>>>> peoples solutions to our unique problems.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So Africa needs to set the standard and then market will have to we
> >>>>> can
> >>>>> even start with an east african standard
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Badru Ntege
> >>>>> CEO
> >>>>> NFT Consult Ltd
> >>>>> Www.Nftconsult.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Vision without execution is hallucination."
> >>>>> -- Thomas A. Edison
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8 Jul 2012, at 19:51, bitange at jambo.co.ke wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Robert,
> >>>>>> Free to Air must remain free.  This is why we need cheaper
> >>>>>> converters
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>> the current STBs.  Check the pricing on Internet.  They are as cheap
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> 5
> >>>>>> dollars.  Big operators want expensive STBs in order to accomodate
> >>>>> they
> >>>>>> conditional access channels.  We need SMEs to bring in the low end
> >>>>> DVBT2
> >>>>>> STBs.  We are letting the opportunity pass those who need business
> >>>>> most.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ndemo.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Daktari,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now that I have migrated I am more interested with what is going
> >>>>>>> on.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is a bit of confusion about the free to air channels are they
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>> remain available or not?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robert Yawe
> >>>>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> >>>>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> >>>>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> >>>>>>> Kenya
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>> From: "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> >>>>>>> To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> >>>>>>> Cc: bitange at jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012, 22:04
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robert,
> >>>>>>> Thank you for being a great Ambassador.  With competition you are
> >>>>> going to
> >>>>>>> see the price of set top drom to as little as Ksh. 500.  I hear
> >>>>>>> some
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>> conditional access will be offering popular bouque of some 50
> >>>>> channels
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>> $2 (two) dollars a month.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know of new venacular entrants coming in in less than a month.
> >>>>> More
> >>>>>>> content will also come from edutainment which in my view from what
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>> seen is world class.  Perhaps this may be the greatest opportunity
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>> revive our own lanuages.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ndemo.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Listers,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Wanted to inform you that on the 19th of June 2012 I migrated from
> >>>>>>>> analogue to digital TV reception, the signal is crystal clear not
> >>>>> like
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> graining images I have been accustomed to over the past many
> >>>>>>>> years.
> >>>>> The
> >>>>>>>> move was necessitated by the need for some of my house-mates to
> >>>>> watch
> >>>>>>>> Tusker Project Fame, I went VoD many months ago.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To put an issue to rest especially those in the media who have
> >>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>> spreading malicious roamers about the migration that I did not buy
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> digital TV set.  All I bought was a decoder for 2,999/- which I
> >>>>> plugged
> >>>>>>>> into old faithful and "pap" I can now receive clear digital
> >>>>>>>> signal.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It was encouraging to note that all the current free to air
> >>>>> channels,
> >>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>> of which I did not even know existed, have jumped onto the
> >>>>> transmission
> >>>>>>>> including NTV, KTN and Citizen which makes you wonder what all
> >>>>> those
> >>>>>>>> legalise was about.  The quality of the various channels is
> >>>>> glaring,
> >>>>>>>> something that was not visible with the analogue signal.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To get a more holistic experience I also paid for the basic
> >>>>>>>> bouquet
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>>> 500/- a month, the offering was not disappointing but the number
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> channels is mind boggling especially having been there during the
> >>>>> days
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> single channel VOK (Voice of Kenya).  I only wish they could allow
> >>>>> me
> >>>>>>>> create my own selection of channels to receive, the standard
> >>>>> offerings
> >>>>>>>> make me feel like I am in a straight jacket.  Yes, this is what
> >>>>> happens
> >>>>>>>> when you enlighten people, 2 days ago I was comfortable receiving
> >>>>>>>> 6
> >>>>>>>> horrible free to air channels today I am demanding a la Carte.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All of you out there who where saving to buy expensive digital TV
> >>>>> sets
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> can take 2,999/- of that money and migrate to digital TV today.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> PS.  I just took the device home handed over to my son who within
> >>>>> 15
> >>>>>>>> minutes had it up and running, held on to the remote.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Robert Yawe
> >>>>>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> >>>>>>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> >>>>>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> >>>>>>>> Kenya
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tel: +254722511225,
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