[kictanet] Robert Yawe for PMG Integrity test

Wed Jan 4 14:58:16 EAT 2012

@Solomon,

Are you sure you want Bobby to answer these questions all over again??

I think Robert has elaborately (falling short of just laying open his plan)
discussed several avenues he'd use to turn around PCK.

The archives of this list are available at
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/, but a clever google search
directed towards the same can probably yield better results than the simple
search.

However, I am not trying to dissuade Robert from answering questions which
obviously were not directed towards me:-)

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 13:32, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>wrote:

> Bwana Yawe and listers,
>
> Happy 2012.
>
> The real intent of putting forth this subject, is to interrogate the
> ability of Yawe, or any other potential cadidature for the position of PMG.
> Since it has been observed that anyone wishing to be appointed for any
> public positon needs to satisfy certain requirements, mostly drawn in
> Chapter 6 of the Constitution of Kenya.
>
> I find three extreme stands on this subject:
>
>    1. Those who opine that education is an important aspect for improving
>    the general well-being of an individual
>    2. Those who do not think education is of any value
>    3. A stand in-between
>
> While education is important as it opens doors for individuals to gain
> access to aspects such as economic and social well-being, as long as a
> person is able to make decisions that are of value towards the improvement
> of the general society.
>
> My personal view is education shold not be a hinderance to a person's
> capability.
>
> Back to Yawe or any other interested person.
>
>    - Do you still, if the opportunity arises, consider yourself a
>    candidate for the position of PMG?
>    - How would you turn this state corporation profitable, in the
>    shortestt time possible?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards,
>
> Solomon
>
>
>
> On 22 December 2011 12:49, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dr. Bitange,
>>
>> The degree in many of the cases where we are insisting they are required
>> have resulted in them being merely paper qualifications and I refuse to be
>> part of this fraud.
>>
>> It is not that I cannot get a degree overnight, with US$ 1,500/- I can
>> receive a degree from an on-line University in the same way that many of
>> the members of parliament and preachers (Right Left Reverend of the
>> Redeemed Divine and  Apostolic Church of the Living and Truly omni
>> potent church of the Rhine) have done.
>>
>> In your genuine opinion will that degree be worth the paper i will have
>> printed it on?
>>
>> Since all that is requested is a degree irrespective of which university
>> issued it or the discipline I will have passed the perception test and
>> nothing else, I will be as qualified as the quake doctor is perceived to be
>> trained and licensed because he wears a white "dust" coat and hangs a stethoscope
>> around his neck.
>>
>> The issue was raised about the preference of UON graduates to those from
>> other local universities, as it is with MIT, Yale and Oxford, it is more
>> about the experience of being among great minds all seeking knowledge while
>> in the right environment what I would call academic ambiance that
>> determines the resultant output (*Mk 4:3-9<http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Mk%204.3-9>
>> )*
>>
>> Having a University situated above a bar, next to a fish market and below
>> a brothel will never produce the same quality graduate as one that is
>> situated in its own 200 acre campus.
>>
>> Because of perception we are allowing business people, me included, to
>> dish out paper qualifications as we impoverish families, the more I age the
>> more I digress.
>>
>> Dr. Ndemo, I again repeat what I said in my previous post that if my
>> appointment was pegged on my having a degree then I rest my case as I will
>> not become an academic fraud by buying a piece of paper to fulfil the
>> perception of society.
>>
>> As a director of PCK I would request you to have the HR department give
>> you a list of the number of MBA graduates on the payroll of the
>> organisation then answer the question why is it that they are making no
>> change.
>>
>> PCK has over the years been used as a place to send ageing politically
>> correct politicians and civil servants which is why it has deteriorated to
>> this point, so long as we continue to use perceptions to fill the post of
>> PMG we might as well have the tomb stone cast.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> PS.  Most of the former Nairobi Mayors including the famous His Worship
>> Kingori now have degrees as you will see when they present their nomination
>> papers for governor. Also a number of very successful businessmen who are
>> interested in elect office have been enriching students as they pursue
>> university degrees.
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>   ------------------------------
>> *From:* "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>
>> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 December 2011, 19:00
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Robert Yawe for PMG Integrity test
>>
>> Robert,
>> We do not go to University to get papers.  Education is a great
>> differentiator in the market.  Just as in Marketing, wherever there is
>> plenty of similar products, we tend to differentiate in order to make it
>> competitive.
>>
>> You cannot avoid using a cologne simply because you think that it adds no
>> value.  Research shows that women who use make up are often considered more
>> beautiful even if they are not.  These are public perceptions.  Perceptions
>> indeed impact on our decision making.  Because there are many non-degreed
>> Kenyans, we must find ways of satisfying public perceptions on quality of
>> service from any individual.
>>
>> If we appointed you PMG and any of the former or sitting Nairobi Mayors
>> claims to deserve it the for having been responsible for a large workforce,
>> we shall be faced with a credible challenge.  How shall we then justify
>> your appointment?
>>
>> The truth is when you will be 50, you will either be having a degree or
>> non at all but with regrets when you discover that there was more to
>> University education than just the paper.
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
>> Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:29:10
>> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>> Reply-To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Robert Yawe for PMG Integrity test
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