[kictanet] Konza Land Issue can we have a public position?

Fri Aug 10 07:01:13 EAT 2012

Well if we made noise and Thika road was eventually marked why can't we be
heard on this matter, GG can you lead us on making a public stand i am
willing to write to whom it may concern on behalf of listers, KICTANET
position on Konza Project we can append our signatures if need be to prove
that we are a force to reckon with in any case we are key stakeholders in
so far as the constitution is concerned, i think majority of us have been
sufficiently involved in the process.

Best Regards

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive
Limited] <bkioko at bernsoft.com> wrote:

> Robert,****
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> An interesting view!****
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> Is it right to say we cannot help? I would imagine that we need to make
> that move to help.****
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> Also, will the accused be the one to help himself in this instance or
> should we be the ones to initiate the task force that would defend a good
> cause from being killed OR are you saying the “interested” parties are just
> too powerful?****
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> Regards ****
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> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=
> bernsoft.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *robert yawe
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:20 PM
> *To:* bkioko at bernsoft.com
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> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue****
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> Dr. Ndemo,****
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> Sorry for being the bearer of the truth but unfortunately hang you shall
> hang as you neither own the judge nor the jury and the hang man takes no
> sides.****
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> Online rhetoric and closed group support will not save you, what you
> needed from the beginning was support from a constituency with a platform,
> sad to see Siganga give leap service to your plight yet he runs the only
> bona fide mouth piece which should have taken out a full page advert in
> today's paper in support of your efforts if only your online supporters had
> paid their subscriptions.****
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> I raised pertinent issues about the project right from its public
> inception and took the heat, even taking on the title "village madman".
>  This is one time that I wish not to be exonerated as you have worked
> selflessly on the project, unfortunately in a utopian manner.****
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> Those who want the project dead have more power than those, like yourself,
> who want it to succeed.  ****
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> I recently attended a presentation by the Ministry of Nairobi Metropolitan
> whose master plan includes a 5,000 acre technopolis to be situated along
> Kangundo Road.  ****
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> It takes the Konza project concept and spreads it over 6 locations around
> Nairobi each covering 5,000 acres.  The land has been identified and the
> sellers have the right connections.****
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> Find our why the Tatu Project remains in limbo then you will understand
> why Dr. Ndemo has only 2 options, drop the project and stay afloat or push
> on with it and go down with it.****
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> Dr. Ndemo,  we cannot help you as we are merely hecklers sitting outside
> the stadium and following the goings on in the pitch through the radio
> commentator because we fear to take a public stand.****
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> Your fall will be a very public one utilising the space you have so
> eloquently advocated and propagated, an independent media.  It is time that
> you put together a war council to go to battle with and for you, whose
> members are clearly not on this forum.****
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> I wish you all the best in surviving this onslaught and hope that you had
> followed my finger that kept trying to point you towards the writing on the
> wall.****
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> As the late Vice President Kijana Wamalwa once said "I found myself
> wallowing in the miasma of deceit . . ."****
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> Regards
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> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
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> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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> --- On *Thu, 9/8/12, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>* wrote:****
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> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Thursday, 9 August, 2012, 6:43****
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> Listers,
> A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land
> issue that was in the papers yesterday.  Let me briefly explain the
> problem.
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> Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the
> locationing of a tech city.  Here we largely relied on the work done by
> Booz Allen.  Among other things research shows that a tech city must be
> located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a
> major city from where you can tap the human resource.
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> With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land
> within the parameters of the conceptual framework.  This was done openly
> and we assumed it was indeed an open tender.  But it emerged that the
> definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without
> restrictions.  This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir
> will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.
>
> After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give
> us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000.  Since most
> quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and
> offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is
> not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country.
> Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.
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> This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the
> Procurement Law.  Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering
> to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one
> that is in the interest of the country.
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> We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we
> were given the clear.  Much of this is done by various the departments but
> I bear the ultimate responsibility.
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> What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this
> issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international
> investors.  This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has
> changed and corruption is being dealt with.  Well they did a great damage
> to my reputation.  I read malice in the story since it is something that
> has been around.  I would rather have taken a six month jail term than
> mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to.  I have taken risky
> decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only
> rejoice on successes.
>
> KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on
> our case all through until the project was complete.  The fact that they
> question does not amount to corruption.  This is how we can change laws
> and make them dynamic with changing times.  As much as I respect the
> Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right
> and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions.  Never in
> my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of
> the country.
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> Ndemo.
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