Well if we made noise and Thika road was eventually marked why can't we be heard on this matter, GG can you lead us on making a public stand i am willing to write to whom it may concern on behalf of listers, KICTANET position on Konza Project we can append our signatures if need be to prove that we are a force to reckon with in any case we are key stakeholders in so far as the constitution is concerned, i think majority of us have been sufficiently involved in the process.<br>
<br>Best Regards<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com" target="_blank">bkioko@bernsoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Robert,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">An interesting view!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is it right to say we cannot help? I would imagine that we need to make that move to help.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Also, will the accused be the one to help himself in this instance or should we be the ones to initiate the task force that would defend a good cause from being killed OR are you saying the “interested” parties are just too powerful?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> kictanet [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+bkioko</a>=<a href="mailto:bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>robert yawe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com" target="_blank">bkioko@bernsoft.com</a></span></p><div class="im"><br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br></div><div>
<div class="h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in" valign="top">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dr. Ndemo,</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sorry for being the bearer of the truth but unfortunately hang you shall hang as you neither own the judge nor the jury and the hang man takes no sides.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Online rhetoric and closed group support will not save you, what you needed from the beginning was support from a constituency with a platform, sad to see Siganga give leap service to your plight yet he runs the only bona fide mouth piece which should have taken out a full page advert in today's paper in support of your efforts if only your online supporters had paid their subscriptions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I raised pertinent issues about the project right from its public inception and took the heat, even taking on the title "village madman". This is one time that I wish not to be exonerated as you have worked selflessly on the project, unfortunately in a utopian manner.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Those who want the project dead have more power than those, like yourself, who want it to succeed. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I recently attended a presentation by the Ministry of Nairobi Metropolitan whose master plan includes a 5,000 acre technopolis to be situated along Kangundo Road. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">It takes the Konza project concept and spreads it over 6 locations around Nairobi each covering 5,000 acres. The land has been identified and the sellers have the right connections.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Find our why the Tatu Project remains in limbo then you will understand why Dr. Ndemo has only 2 options, drop the project and stay afloat or push on with it and go down with it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dr. Ndemo, we cannot help you as we are merely hecklers sitting outside the stadium and following the goings on in the pitch through the radio commentator because we fear to take a public stand.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Your fall will be a very public one utilising the space you have so eloquently advocated and propagated, an independent media. It is time that you put together a war council to go to battle with and for you, whose members are clearly not on this forum.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I wish you all the best in surviving this onslaught and hope that you had followed my finger that kept trying to point you towards the writing on the wall.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">As the late Vice President Kijana Wamalwa once said "I found myself wallowing in the miasma of deceit . . ."</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Regards </span><br><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Robert Yawe</span><br>
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<br><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">--- On <b>Thu, 9/8/12, <a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> <i><<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>></i></b> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><br>From: <a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a> <<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke" target="_blank">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue<br>To: <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Date: Thursday, 9 August, 2012, 6:43<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Listers,<br>A number of you have independently asked me to clarify the Konza Land<br>
issue that was in the papers yesterday. Let me briefly explain the<br>problem.<br><br>Prior to the purchase of Land we developed a conceptual framework on the<br>locationing of a tech city. Here we largely relied on the work done by<br>
Booz Allen. Among other things research shows that a tech city must be<br>located at least 30 minutes from the airport and be in the outskirts of a<br>major city from where you can tap the human resource.<br><br>With this we crafted a tender document that restricted the suitable land<br>
within the parameters of the conceptual framework. This was done openly<br>and we assumed it was indeed an open tender. But it emerged that the<br>definition of open was to advertise land availability anywhere without<br>
restrictions. This grey area in the law is rediculous since land in Wajir<br>will have been of no use to us and as such we flouted the procurement law.<br><br>After our competitive bid, we consulted with the Ministry of Lands to give<br>
us the valuation of which the recommendation was Ksh. 200,000. Since most<br>quotes were in the 300 range we focused on the most suitable piece and<br>offered to pay Ministry of Lands Valuation rate. In open tenders one is<br>
not allowed to negotiate even when it is in the interest of the country. <br>Here it is said we manipulated the numbers.<br><br>This clearly is a misunderstanding since we still have grey areas in the<br>Procurement Law. Whereas KACC says we used direct or restricted tendering<br>
to buying the land, our view was that the method was open since and one<br>that is in the interest of the country.<br><br>We did indeed consult the AG's office if what we did was in order and we<br>were given the clear. Much of this is done by various the departments but<br>
I bear the ultimate responsibility.<br><br>What is absurd is the fact that the Daily Nation decided to highlight this<br>issue while we were having the Konza conference here with international<br>investors. This was the time we were telling investors that Kenya has<br>
changed and corruption is being dealt with. Well they did a great damage<br>to my reputation. I read malice in the story since it is something that<br>has been around. I would rather have taken a six month jail term than<br>
mess up with a project that I have devoted my life to. I have taken risky<br>decisions to have this project take off but it is now clear that we only<br>rejoice on successes.<br><br>KACC has a right to question what we do and indeed in Teams they were on<br>
our case all through until the project was complete. The fact that they<br>question does not amount to corruption. This is how we can change laws<br>and make them dynamic with changing times. As much as I respect the<br>
Media, in this case they hurt my character dearly yet what I did was right<br>and hoped we can change the law for future rational decisions. Never in<br>my public life have I tried to do something that is not in the interest of<br>
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