[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
bitange at jambo.co.ke
bitange at jambo.co.ke
Wed Apr 18 16:15:36 EAT 2012
Akoh,
Excellent,
Without having read the book, we have tried to propagate the message that we can leverage ICTs for sustainable development. This year alone, I have made two different presentations on the similar subject.
On economic pillar indeed I am confident that in the next 5 years, it is possible that ICT's impact on other sectors shall lead to some 25% contribution to GDP. This will come out of increased efficiencies on public services and improved productivity in the agricultural sector. In my view development is largely the efficiency levels on utilization of resources in any country.
Developing countries are wasteful on use of its resources and that is why we are behind. Consider the fact that we share all of our fruits with animals and birds while at the same time we import the fruit juices from similar resources exported to developed countries. Africa still is importing eggs from developed countries yet we have the capabilities of using technology to know the movement of our resources.
Socially we have leveraged technology to enhance democracy throughout the world but we have failed to use it build our own values. No one for example steals funeral funds. Conversely we steal development funds without fear of being isolated by the community. While we understand the underlying fears of death and subsequent values, we seem not to have ascribed any values to deaths we create when we steal development funds.
On Environment we have failed. Kenya is a water deficient country. We see all wetlands being reclaimed. We know some sources of water such as Mau, Abadares and Mt. Kenya are under threat but we have never spared a day to discuss this even on this list. We have the technological power to elavate environmental issues to levels attained by Aids campaign but it does not concern us since it is not our personal responsibility. You do not need a scientist to know that the next fights will be on water and not ethnic differences. Already in Northern Kenya we are having problems.
The latest CCK data shows that we are increasingly into Internet than we talk on Mobile. This is good and powerful. Let us take up the opportunity and start discussing the future of our water resources and plan for it. We have data and computing capability to develop predictor models that can help humanity in the days to come. It is useless to talk about data centres and computing power if we cannot use that to sustain our future.
Regards
Ndemo.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Akoh <me at benakoh.com>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
Hi all,
At the Vilnius IGF, the "ICTs, the Internet and Sustainable Development:
Towards a new paradigm" book (see:
http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2010/icts_internet_sd_new_paradigm.pdf) was
launched which explored thinking on ICTs and the Internet, and the
policies that surround them - both at the local level such as in
countries like Kenya or at the global level such as at the international
IGF, from a sustainable development perspective.
SD touches on three critical pillars of development - Economic, Social
and Environmental. The book suggests that these pillars should be
explored with a fundamental principle in mind: "Development that meets
the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future
generations to meet their own needs." This book presents important
lessons that can help us adequately and efficiently conceptualize
present and future visions for ICTs and the Internet, and policies that
concern them. It may be useful as we think about the future of the
internet in Kenya.
Firstly, I would like to suggest, if it pleases everyone on the list,
and our moderator, Grace, to perhaps examine this future thinking
process using these pillars of sustainable development - Economic,
Social and Environmental. This can be done through asking listers, if
they had to conceptualize a vision to meet our present needs in such a
way that they do not compromise future needs (for our children) what
would be the a) economic, b) social, and c) environmental impacts?
Secondly, the book provides a framework for examining future impacts of
ICTs/Internet through what it calls the "systemic effects", and there
are three of them.
The first order (direct) effects are direct and immediate effects of
ICTs/Internet on our society, for instance, the direct effect of the
Internet on Kenya is the increasing numbers of online business that
generate more revenue for the country.
The second order (indirect) effects concern the applications of
ICTs/Internet to increase efficiencies in other industries. For
instance, the Internet can be used to improve the deployment of health
services or education, etc.
The third order (societal) effect concerns the impacts on ICTs/Internet
on changing social and behavioral structures. For instance, the use of
the internet to reduce cost and change behaviors through, for example
telecommuting, or online shopping.
Juxtaposing these systemic effects with the pillars of sustainable
development can help us to better define specific approaches and also
how to best conceptualize the future of ICTs/Internet in Kenya in a way
that Kictanet would like to see, and that encompases those whom the
policies will impact but who may not be opportuned to participate.
Using this framework, we would refine our question above by asking:
What first order, second order and third order effects can ICTs/Internet
have now and in the future for:
a. Economic sustainability
b. Social sustainability
c. Environmental sustainability?
And what role can Kictanet play to make this happen?
Perhaps, this sort of structure can help us discuss systematically and
in more depth, and can also ease Grace's job in sequentially documenting
our dialogue and thoughts.
Thanks again for letting a lurker comment.
Best,
Ben
On 4/17/12 4:53 AM, charles nduati wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
>
> As a founder Director of KICTANET, I congratulate all of you for this
> contributions because they truly warm our hearts to know that we have
> somehow achieved our vision.
>
> Robert, let me tell you, you don't know how many times I quote you the
> way also my mother quotes the announcers in the vernacular radio
> stations as if she is quoting from the bible even though she has never
> called in to the radio show discussions.
>
> As for those who are proposing revamping, I will say like the incoming
> World bank president, coming from medicine field he only administers
> medicine that he has evidence it works and its safe.
>
> Show me your evidence for your prescription and I am with you.
>
> Charles Nduati
> CHARLES N. NDUATI
> GENERAL MANAGER
> JKUAT ENTERPRISES LTD
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> www.jkuat.ac.ke
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> *To:* charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Sent:* Monday, 16 April 2012, 13:54
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
> KICTAnet 2.0
>
> @Gilda,
>
> the ball is actually in EACH of our courts. I am also humbled by the
> former PS Murage's testimony. Think about it, this guy was for along
> time the President's Strategy Advisor - perhaps KICTAnet has had policy
> impact from the highest levels of this land (we all deserve some some
> consultancy fee from Govt ;-).
>
> But am sure we can make even bigger strides as get more feedback from
> the membership. I assume GG is moderating, based on her recent summary.
> Keep the conversation going.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/16/12, Gilda Odera /<godera at skyweb.co.ke>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
> KICTAnet 2.0
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> Date: Monday, April 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
>
>
> Joe,
> I like your suggestion. I agree- let us look at the next 10 years,
> review where we are, evaluate any shortfalls and come up with
> possible suggestions. We have evolved but we could be further. As
> Brian mentioned, this can be taken to the higher level once
> determined.I'd like to see more than 10 companies winning global
> competitions (why not?), lower Internet rates with greater speeds,
> many more innovations (because we have what it takes). My take is
> that we can do much more- let us up our game.
> Walu, ball in your court, let us get this going.
> Kind regards,
> Gilda
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Joseph Mucheru
> *To:* godera at skyweb.co.ke
> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2012 9:42 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked
> into KICTAnet 2.0
>
> Harry/Gilda Et all,
>
> Following this whole discussion I can help but conclude the
> country have moved to a different stage in the development of
> the ICT sector. In the past we came together because there were
> major issues we needed to deal with. The face 2 face was even
> important to ensure we framed the issues well for the stakeholders.
>
> * We have a policy framework in place (an evolving one)
> * The market is competitive (call rates and internet rates are
> low)
> * We are leading in innovations in mobile money globally (mpesa)
> * iHub and other open community spaces are doing well - look
> at the mlab
> <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/MLab++gets+Sh1+31+billion+financial+boost+/-/1248928/1380044/-/t1p59dz/-/index.html>
> Content and other funding (Billions of shillings)
> * John Waibochi is winning global competitions with virtual city
> * Cables landed - 4G and evolving
> * etc ....
> * We still have some legacy issues (Telkom and Posta) - But we
> know there are qualified people dealing with them amongst
> others
>
> Am not saying things are perfect, only that we have not
> identified an obvious national cross cutting issue to rally
> everyone around. Konza is a great but most people I have talked
> to are not clear how to engage (yet they do not want to be left
> out).
>
> May I propose an action for this list. Paint a picture of
> Kenya's ICT sector in 2020. By this I mean, what do we all think
> Kenya's ICT sector will/can look like in next 10 years.
>
> This will allow each of us to reflect of what we are doing today
> and how we can impact that vision of tomorrow.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
> My view is we have exhausted discussions on setting a suitable
> framework and what we need is to move to the next level
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Harry Delano
> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much Gilda.____
> ____
> Actually, therein lies the conundrum – How to grow the forum
> potential that we have? How to spur on such a huge base as____
> per Washington’s stats, to a wider participation/engagement
> for mutual benefit of all, the nation and beyond. Debate
> here____
> on the good days can really, really be rich in content at
> the same time being informative & Educative.____
> ____
> Secondly, as Edwin earlier on stated, on those good days
> when debate – deliberation & conclusions is at its best, we____
> unfortunately do not have mechanisms in place to follow this
> through with the decision makers – effectively influencing ____
> policy. How do we address this..? It won’t just be enough to
> build up an archive for PhD students out of the Kictanet____
> repositories.. Let these deliberations make a difference
> that can count in this country. ____
> ____
> That is Kictanet..____
> ____
> Harry____
> ____
> ____
> *From:*Gilda Odera [mailto:godera at skyweb.co.ke]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2012 5:26 PM
>
> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked
> into KICTAnet 2.0____
> ____
> Hi Harry,____
> ____
> I am not too sure the sisters can be any more empowered-
> short of force feeding really!:)____
> Those who feel strongly about something tend to drop a line.____
> I don't even think it is a gender issue, I am sure if you
> check out the subscriber base you will find that people are
> just keeping quiet in the background but picking a lot.____
> ____
> How to make it more interactive?____
> My suspicion is that many only read one thread and miss out
> the main thread of the debate and depending on what a
> subscriber has responded to, they sometimes "switch off" and
> do not read any more mails on that topic- in the process
> missing out on some interesting discussions in between.____
> I think those who have something burning to say will say it
> anyway. The rest are neither here nor there in the debate so
> they see no need to comment nor read all the threads.____
> Maybe on each topic the key Government agencies can be
> requested to always give an opinion- that may generate more
> participation.And the subject line would ensure it
> highlights " XXX's position on....".- Just wondering.____
> Glad to read PS Murage's email to Grace- people are indeed
> reading Kictanet debates. ____
> .____
> ____
> Gilda Odera____
>
> ----- Original Message ----- ____
> *From:*Harry Delano ____
> *To:*'Gilda Odera' ____
> *Cc:*kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke ____
> *Sent:*Friday, April 13, 2012 4:38 PM____
> *Subject:*RE: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or
> kicked into KICTAnet 2.0____
> ____
> Thanks so much Gilda/Grace for your comments. So
> possibly from your own observation perhaps, how can we
> make ____
> it more interactive and engaging, and attract more
> participation..? Could it be we need to make the
> environment a little ____
> bit more conducive/friendlier and accommodative enough?
> My observation is the sisters are usually too silent.
> How____
> do we empower..?____
> ____
> Secondly I do note, in its formative years Kictanet
> actively & professionally ( through representation)
> engaged a number____
> of players on the national stage, such us the Ps, CCK,
> Govt Depts, to shape ICT policy. There have been
> positive results____
> from those engagement sessions (kamkunji). That also
> seems to have faded off..? Any idea..?____
> ____
> This is because I have this strong feeling within, that
> since Kictanet was formed with the express objective to
> engage ____
> on a multi-stakeholder platform, there has never been
> such a time in its history as now that we need to engage
> more, ____
> and do so collectively. For instance, I thought this
> would be a time we would be actively engaging on Konza,
> Cyber____
> security, just to name a few… or..?____
> ____
> Harry____
> ____
> ____
> *From:*kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> *On Behalf Of *Gilda Odera
> *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2012 4:08 PM
> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or
> kicked into KICTAnet 2.0____
> ____
> Grace,____
> ____
> I think it is a cultural thing here. Many people would
> rather write directly to you during a debate, as you say
> below, rather than voice their opinion openly. I am
> thinking Kenyans are still very shy and scared of being
> seen to "step on another's toes"- just in case their
> comment may be going against someone's opinion. Many
> would rather hide and comment quietly to the person next
> to them or the person they are close to.____
> I imagine that is why there are still so many things
> that remain unchanged in the country that could be
> changed if people came out and voiced their opinions.But
> the few who write must never feel discouraged as their
> voices are still being heard and they are impacting on
> so many. It takes a few people to bring about change. ____
> My thoughts. ____
> ____
> Regards,____
> ____
> Gilda____
> ____
>
> ----- Original Message ----- ____
> *From:*Grace Githaiga ____
> *To:*godera at skyweb.co.ke ____
> *Cc:*kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke ____
> *Sent:*Friday, April 13, 2012 3:36 PM____
> *Subject:*RE: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or
> kicked into KICTAnet 2.0____
> ____
>
> Spot on Gilda. However, it may be useful to hear
> from some lurkers as to why they are not active
> participants of the forum (there is not so much from
> the sisters :)). Maybe there is something that can
> be done to allow for more participation? I have for
> example received comments off-list when I have
> moderated debates, and my question to those listers
> is that it would be nice for them to raise the very
> good comments here on this forum. Again, the aim is
> to strengthen the forum and have it continue to
> remain relevant. ____
> ____
> On another note, I have seen some of our discussions
> here quoted authoritatively on mainstream media, as
> well as on social media. ____
> ____
> Ben Akoh, we look forward to reading the findings of
> your research. ____
> ____
> Lets keep this debate live! It is very useful.____
> ____
> Rgds____
> GG____
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If you have the strength to survive, you have the
> power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make
> depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and
> rule the World!____
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: godera at skyweb.co.ke
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:12:58 +0300
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or
> kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com____
> Long live Kictanet- as far as I am concerned.____
> ____
> Listers,____
> ____
> I think we need to remember that just like in any
> other forum, there are always the very few who
> engage in discussions while most do the listening.
> That is typical human behaviour, and it is therefore
> not odd nor is Kictanet dying because not all
> subscribed listers are actively participating.____
> Personally, I am quite happy with the forum. And
> there has been so much to learn and listen to in the
> various debates- very useful.____
> ____
> Regards,____
> ____
> Gilda Odera____
>
> ----- Original Message ----- ____
> *From:*Walubengo J ____
> *To:*godera at skyweb.co.ke ____
> *Cc:*KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions ____
> *Sent:*Friday, April 13, 2012 12:04 PM____
> *Subject:*Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
> kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0____
> ____
> Ben
>
> This is a powerful testimony. I do also know of
> a PhD student whose core dataset is the KICTAnet
> archives. And others who got jobs/scholarships
> arising from KICTAnet posts. I think these are
> some of the stories that we want to hear from
> the "horses" mouth...
>
> However, on the flip-side, I think we should
> also welcome the negative experiences - or
> challenges as it were - so that we can improve
> going forward.
>
> walu.
> nb: ave taken the liberty to tweak the subject
> to include KICTAnet 2.0
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/13/12, Ben Akoh
> /<me at benakoh.com>/* wrote:____
>
> From: Ben Akoh <me at benakoh.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin,
> or kicked into the dustbin...!
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Friday, April 13, 2012, 2:17 AM____
> Hi All,
>
> My name is Ben Akoh and I am one of many lurkers
> on this list, and on many
> others. I am not Kenyan, I have visited the
> country several times, I will
> be visiting it in the next month, I love it, its
> people, and have very
> good friends there.
>
> I participated in one of the earlier public
> forums that helped to shape
> Kictanet and that fed into the numerous fiber
> initiatives to which you and
> most of us now enjoy: directly when we visit the
> country, and indirectly
> when we interact with good people like
> yourselves who continue to pave the
> way for how public consultation can shape future
> growth and development.
>
> My comments are along three lines:
>
> 1. The benefits of lurkers: Being a lurker is
> not necessary a bad thing.
> Some of us continue to benefit from this list
> and learn good practices
> that inform public policy in many other areas.
> For instance, the Kictanet
> model is replicated across several national
> discussion lists in West
> Africa and have been suggested as a useful model
> for public consultation
> on policy issues. Lurkers benefit through
> propagate the good dialogues
> that emanate from this group in other forums
> beyond yours. See this as
> Kenya's export to the knowledge and information
> economy.
>
> 2. Questioning is good: Seeking ways through
> which this forum would become
> more relevant is also not necessarily a bad
> thing. Questioning leads to
> improvement. The day that every member of this
> group thinks that the list
> has arrived (group think), is the day it begins
> to slowly die a death.
> Thus, a constant review, as someone mentioned,
> against Kictanet's initial
> objectives is a good starting point; documenting
> its progress over the
> years through careful research (as another
> person mentioned) is also
> important. But significant consideration should
> be given to the medium of
> delivery and how this is relevant to the context
> of the times. "The medium
> is the message" (Marshall McLuhan). The medium
> should thus respond to the
> demands of the time. Considerations should be
> given to those for whom
> policy is deliberated but who do not have access
> to deliberate in its
> present form.
>
> 3. Kicktanet is one of several model that works:
> I am currently finalizing
> a toolkit (ebook and wiki) of several models
> that have worked for
> generating evidence and for seeking consent of
> those whom policy will
> affect using case studies of good practice
> models implemented across the
> world. Kictanet and this discussion list is
> featured prominently as one of
> them. I hope to share the outcome of this
> research once it has been
> published.
>
> In sum, all these go to say that:
>
> 1. The list is useful to both lurkers and active
> members.
> 2. Its influence transcends Kenya and
> contributes to shaping policy and
> policy consultation beyond its borders.
> 3. The medium should respond to the dynamic
> context of communication
> technologies, and cater to the local context as
> well as the growing needs
> of its audience - present and future. It should
> therefore be shaped
> accordingly.
>
> My two bob.
>
> Ben
> A lurker.
>
>
> On Thu, April 12, 2012 8:59 am, Evans Ikua wrote:
> > Now that we have to weigh in, I think this is
> an important list that it
> > serves its purposes well. If it falls silent
> for some time, then it means
> > that everyone is happy, which is not a bad
> thing. When its active, it
> > means
> > that people have issues, and they have a good
> place and forum to air their
> > concerns and opinion relating to the industry.
> >
> > As for the lurkers, they are also good to
> have. As someone said, one will
> > always speak out when their area of interest
> is mentioned and they have an
> > opinion to share.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Evans
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Harry Delano
> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Now we talking. Please if you happen to be
> on this list, but presently
> >> on
> >> “read-only-mode” ( a new phrase I have
> learnt),****
> >>
> >> please realize you owe it to this noble
> forum, started by noble people,
> >> with noble ideas at least in a way to leave
> some****
> >>
> >> mark…****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> So can we ensure that this forum carries the
> flag up higher and make a
> >> mark in this land and beyond that we can
> believe ****
> >>
> >> in. Have looked around, do not see any other
> forum with such
> >> broad/diverse
> >> membership.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Let’s keep the ideas coming in..****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Harry****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> *From:*
> kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke>]
> *On
> >> Behalf Of *Harry Hare
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:17 PM
> >>
> >> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke>
> >> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
> kickin, or kicked into the
> >> dustbin...!****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Hey all, there is a strategy document
> floating somewhere. I think this
> >> could be a good place to start – see what
> has been achieved, what fell
> >> by
> >> the way side, identify what is still
> relevant, plug in new ideas and
> >> strengthen the network. KICTANet should
> never be allowed to "kick".****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Harry Hare****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Director****
> >>
> >> African eDevelopment Resource Centre****
> >>
> >> PO Box 49475 00100****
> >>
> >> Nairobi, Kenya****
> >>
> >> Tel +254 20 4041646****
> >>
> >> Cel +254 725 650044****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> *From: *Brian Munyao Longwe
> <blongwe at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=blongwe%40gmail.com>>
> >> *Date: *Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:57:45 +0300
> >> *To: *Harry Hare
> <harry at africanedevelopment.org
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40africanedevelopment.org>>
> >> *Cc: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> >> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
> kickin, or kicked into the
> >> dustbin...!****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> If we go back to early discussions about the
> multi-stakeholder network
> >> known as KICTAnet I recall there being a
> distinction between the mailing
> >> list participants, and those stakeholders
> who would actively engage in
> >> KICTAnet "activities".****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> My take is that since there have been no
> "activities" as such - the
> >> feeling is that KICTAnet has "kicked" to
> borrow a phrase from
> >> @Harry.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> I remember there used to be monthly
> face-to-face meetings which followed
> >> a
> >> particular topic or theme of interest and
> served as an opportunity for
> >> participants from the various networks to
> meet within the context of the
> >> "network of networks". At the time there was
> program funding from donor
> >> to
> >> cover costs of those meetings, this has
> presumably, run out. Which leads
> >> me
> >> to ask, can we mobilise funds locally? At
> least for these gatherings? As
> >> they will give a greater element of traction
> to the organization while
> >> ensuring that it continues to remain
> relevant within the sector.
> >> Especially
> >> as the melting pot for policy debate.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Best regards,****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Brian****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Walubengo J
> <jwalu at yahoo.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com>>
> >> wrote:****
> >>
> >> Joe,
> >>
> >> Currently listed number is 690 members from
> diverse backgrounds of
> >> Media,
> >> Academia, Govt, Regulator, Telcos(fixed,
> mobile, wireless). But as you
> >> noted not everyone is active -80% are often
> in read-only mode. That is
> >> one
> >> reason I thought we needed new thinking and
> new approaches...
> >>
> >> walu.
> >>
> >> --- On *Thu, 4/12/12, Joseph Mucheru
> <mucheru at google.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=mucheru%40google.com>>*
> wrote:****
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Joseph Mucheru <mucheru at google.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=mucheru%40google.com>>****
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
> kickin, or kicked into the
> >> dustbin...!
> >> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke>>****
> >>
> >> Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 2:53 PM****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> I am certainly above 35 and enjoy not only
> records but also the latest
> >> collaboration technologies "Google
> >>
> Hangouts<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw>"
> >> I agree that we need to review our aim and
> strategies but we need to
> >> have a
> >> representative forum that allows for that to
> take place. @Brian you know
> >> many participant on this list are in read
> only mode.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> @Walu/@Washington - can you give us an idea
> of the number of people
> >> actively subscribed to the list? Not the
> names but the number. This will
> >> be
> >> a good place to start. Dealing with facts
> and not guess work.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Thanks****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Joe****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon
> Mbũrũ Kamau
> >> <solo.mburu at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=solo.mburu%40gmail.com><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=solo.mburu%40gmail.com>>>
> >> wrote:****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> On 12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe
> >> <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> <http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk>>>
> >> wrote:****
> >>
> >> Harry,****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> We are ageing, email is loosing is lustre
> and the new generation hate
> >> records and prefer platforms like twitter
> and facebook.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> The responsibility for keeping the forum
> active remains with those over
> >> 35
> >> year old who unfortunately are trying to fit
> in with the younger
> >> crowd.***
> >> *
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> uuummmmm is there a way out of this loop.^C****
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm below 35, but enjoy keeping records, in
> addition to facebook and
> >> twitter
> >> ****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Regards ****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Robert Yawe
> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> >> Kenya****
> >>
> >> Tel:
> +254722511225begin_of_the_skype_highlighting+254722511225end_of_the_skype_highlighting,
> +254202010696begin_of_the_skype_highlighting+254202010696end_of_the_skype_highlighting****
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:* Harry Delano
> >> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke>>
> >> >
> >> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> <http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk>
> >> <http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe%40yahoo.co.uk>>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke>>>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012, 13:55****
> >>
> >>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
> kickin, or kicked into the
> >> dustbin...!****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Ara..!****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Not many people seriously want to rejuvenate
> this forum, as per
> >> Brian/Walubengo’s suggestion…?****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Cannot imagine the forum becoming a good
> case study one day for some
> >> thesis student. Whose research titles among
> others:-****
> >>
> >> · “How-to-kill a good forum, kick it into
> the dustbin and
> >> leave
> >> it for the dead” ****
> >>
> >> · “The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a
> myriad of many
> >> ICT
> >> forums in Kenya, the major one being….****
> >>
> >> · “How-not-to build structural resilience
> and offer strategic
> >> leadership”. Why the big forum went M.I.A,
> and petered out..****
> >>
> >> · And the final one perhaps, “ Do not repeat
> the mistakes
> >> listed
> >> above, time for a RESET..”!****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Certainly, unless otherwise – we might be
> headed for such a case
> >> study.
> >> Not sure if I should patent the titles, just
> in case..!****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Harry****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> *From:*
> >>
> kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke>>[mailto:
> >> kictanet-bounces+harry
> <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=
> >> comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke%40lists.kictanet.or.ke>>]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Brian Munyao Longwe
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:50 AM
> >> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke>
> <http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke>>
> >> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
> kickin, or kicked into the
> >> dustbin...!****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> I think Walu is on the right track. Every
> organisation for-profit or
> >> not,
> >> has to reassess it's strategy, relevance,
> business direction and thrust
> >> periodically or risk falling into the
> shadows.****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Is it time for KICTAnet to do so?****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> As one of the founders and a trustee I think
> that the time has come.****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> My 2 shillings,****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> Brian****
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J
> >> <jwalu at yahoo.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com>>>
> >> wrote:****
> >>
> >> @Wash,
> >>
> >> Maybe Delano is insinuating something.
> Perhaps KICTAnet needs to
> >> re-juvinate
> >> and re-energize. Bring in new blood and
> thinking. What do we want from
> >> KICTAnet, 8yrs later? What management
> structures, membership structures,
> >> operational, financial structures do we want
> to see going forward?
> >>
> >> Perhaps a brainstorming face2face session is
> due. I for one have been
> >> the
> >> moderator since inception and maybe someone
> else can do a better job and
> >> we
> >> just have not asked them to come forth.
> Think about it - I could have
> >> run
> >> out of ideas or some younger dot.commer
> <http://dot.com> may just be
> >> sitting on better ways of moderation that I
> have never imagined...
> >>
> >> just my 2pings.
> >>
> >> walu.
> >>
> >> --- On *Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington
> >> <odhiambo at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo%40gmail.com><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo%40gmail.com>>
> >> >* wrote:****
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Odhiambo Washington
> >> <odhiambo at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo%40gmail.com><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo%40gmail.com>>
> >> >
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
> kickin, or kicked into the
> >> dustbin...!
> >> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com>
> <http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu%40yahoo.com>>
> >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> >> >
> >> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50 PM****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano
> >> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke><http://mc/[email protected]
> <http://mc/compose?to=harry%40comtelsys.co.ke>>>
> >> wrote:****
> >>
> >> I’m not sure which is which, until I see
> some response on whether we
> >> might
> >> just as well happen to be drifting along
> rudderless…!!****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >>
> >> You mean the post-Easter stupor, or??
> >> ****
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
> >> Nairobi,KE
> >>
> +254733744121/+254722743223begin_of_the_skype_highlighting+254722743223end_of_the_skype_highlighting
> >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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> >> [image:
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> consider the
> >> environment before printing this email. ****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
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> >> for people and institutions interested and
> involved in ICT policy and
> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a
> catalyst for reform in the ICT
> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT
> enabled growth and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
> standards of acceptable behaviors
> >> online that you follow in real life: respect
> people's times and
> >> bandwidth,
> >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or
> personalize, respect privacy,
> >> do
> >> not spam, do not market your wares or
> qualifications.****
> >>
> >>
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> multi-stakeholder platform
> >> for people and institutions interested and
> involved in ICT policy and
> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a
> catalyst for reform in the ICT
> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT
> enabled growth and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
> standards of acceptable behaviors
> >> online that you follow in real life: respect
> people's times and
> >> bandwidth,
> >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or
> personalize, respect privacy,
> >> do
> >> not spam, do not market your wares or
> qualifications.****
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> -- ****
> >>
> >> Brian Munyao Longwe****
> >>
> >> e-mail: blongwe at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=blongwe%40gmail.com>
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> <http://mc/compose?to=blongwe%40gmail.com>>
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> >> blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com
> >> meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com****
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> "Give us clear vision that we may know where
> to stand and what to stand
> >> for, because unless we stand for something,
> we shall fall for
> >> anything."**
> >> **
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a
> multi-stakeholder platform
> >> for people and institutions interested and
> involved in ICT policy and
> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a
> catalyst for reform in the ICT
> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT
> enabled growth and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
> standards of acceptable behaviors
> >> online that you follow in real life: respect
> people's times and
> >> bandwidth,
> >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or
> personalize, respect privacy,
> >> do
> >> not spam, do not market your wares or
> qualifications.****
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a
> multi-stakeholder platform
> >> for people and institutions interested and
> involved in ICT policy and
> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a
> catalyst for reform in the ICT
> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT
> enabled growth and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
> standards of acceptable behaviors
> >> online that you follow in real life: respect
> people's times and
> >> bandwidth,
> >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or
> personalize, respect privacy,
> >> do
> >> not spam, do not market your wares or
> qualifications.****
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> multi-stakeholder platform
> >> for people and institutions interested and
> involved in ICT policy and
> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a
> catalyst for reform in the ICT
> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT
> enabled growth and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
> standards of acceptable behaviors
> >> online that you follow in real life: respect
> people's times and
> >> bandwidth,
> >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or
> personalize, respect privacy,
> >> do
> >> not spam, do not market your wares or
> qualifications.****
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> --
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> multi-stakeholder platform
> >> for people and institutions interested and
> involved in ICT policy and
> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a
> catalyst for reform in the ICT
> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT
> enabled growth and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
> standards of acceptable behaviors
> >> online that you follow in real life: respect
> people's times and
> >> bandwidth,
> >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or
> personalize, respect privacy,
> >> do
> >> not spam, do not market your wares or
> qualifications.****
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> kictanet mailing list
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> >>
> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a
> multi-stakeholder platform
> >> for people and institutions interested and
> involved in ICT policy and
> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a
> catalyst for reform in the ICT
> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT
> enabled growth and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same
> standards of acceptable behaviors
> >> online that you follow in real life: respect
> people's times and
> >> bandwidth,
> >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or
> personalize, respect privacy,
> >> do
> >> not spam, do not market your wares or
> qualifications.****
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> -- ****
> >>
> >> Brian Munyao Longwe****
> >>
> >> e-mail: blongwe at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=blongwe%40gmail.com>
> >> cell:
> +254715964281begin_of_the_skype_highlighting+254715964281end_of_the_skype_highlighting
> >> blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com
> >> meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com****
> >>
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