[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!

Thu Apr 12 16:45:24 EAT 2012

Hi,

I agree with Robert on the 10% of members would normally be active. I don't
think "Read Mode" is necessarily a bad thing. Even Solomon in his wisdom
said "Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool who keeps silent is considered wise; when
he closes his lips, he is deemed intelligent." As the Lister's are mostly
Kenyans, they are stakeholders. As indicated elsewhere, this list consists
of people from different walks of life or sectors thus people tend to
contribute to conversations that touch on their area of passion or
expertise. Kudos to those who have been active the rest of us are the
silent interested listeners. However silence is not inactivity.

Etinick

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> The ratio of active members to total membership is normally 10% any other
> way and we shall need to rewrite the business books and increase the number
> of teachers in schools.
>
> A vote will not help as many of the read only members will still not vote,
> can we then implement a CPE (continuous professional education) point
> system where as a member of the list you must make at least 1 contribution
> per year to retain your membership.
>
> On sites like Wazua they give categories the members and on most support
> forums the members give points for the quality of contributions (ooops
> should not have brought that one up).
>
> My 30 bob
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012, 15:07
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
> dustbin...!
>
> The current list membership count is 692. This does not include even a
> single address to which mail cannot be delivered.
>
> From my experience being on this list, many participants are, as Mucheru
> says, on "read only mode".
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 14:53, Joseph Mucheru <mucheru at google.com> wrote:
>
> I am certainly above 35 and enjoy not only records but also the latest
> collaboration technologies "Google Hangouts<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw>"
> I agree that we need to review our aim and strategies but we need to have a
> representative forum that allows for that to take place. @Brian you know
> many participant on this list are in read only mode.
>
> @Walu/@Washington - can you give us an idea of the number of people
> actively subscribed to the list? Not the names but the number. This will be
> a good place to start. Dealing with facts and not guess work.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
>
>  On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <
> solo.mburu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>  On 12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  Harry,
>
> We are ageing, email is loosing is lustre and the new generation hate
> records and prefer platforms like twitter and facebook.
>
> The responsibility for keeping the forum active remains with those over 35
> year old who unfortunately are trying to fit in with the younger crowd.
>
> uuummmmm is there a way out of this loop.^C
>
>
> I'm below 35, but enjoy keeping records, in addition to facebook and
> twitter
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012, 13:55
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
> dustbin...!
>
>   Ara..!
>
> Not many people seriously want to rejuvenate this forum, as per
> Brian/Walubengo’s suggestion…?
>
> Cannot imagine the forum becoming a good case study one day for some
> thesis student. Whose research titles among others:-
> ·         “How-to-kill a good forum, kick it into the dustbin and leave
> it for the dead”
> ·         “The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a myriad of many ICT
> forums in Kenya, the major one being….
> ·         “How-not-to build structural resilience and offer strategic
> leadership”. Why the big forum went M.I.A, and petered out..
> ·         And the final one perhaps, “ Do not repeat the mistakes listed
> above, time for a RESET..”!
>
> Certainly, unless otherwise – we might be headed for such a case study.
> Not sure if I should patent the titles, just in case..!
>
> Harry
>
>
>  *From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto:
> kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf
> Of *Brian Munyao Longwe
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:50 AM
> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
> dustbin...!
>
> I think Walu is on the right track. Every organisation for-profit or not,
> has to reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and thrust
> periodically or risk falling into the shadows.
>
>  Is it time for KICTAnet to do so?
>
>  As one of the founders and a trustee I think that the time has come.
>
>  My 2 shillings,
>
>  Brian
>  On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   @Wash,
>
> Maybe Delano is insinuating something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs to
> re-juvinate
> and re-energize. Bring in new blood and thinking. What do we want from
> KICTAnet, 8yrs later? What management structures, membership structures,
> operational, financial structures do we want to see going forward?
>
> Perhaps a brainstorming face2face session is due. I for one have been the
> moderator since inception and maybe someone else can do a better job and we
> just have not asked them to come forth. Think about it - I could have run
> out of ideas or some younger dot.commer <http://dot.com/> may just be
> sitting on better ways of moderation that I have never imagined...
>
> just my 2pings.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
> dustbin...!
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50 PM
>
>
>  On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>  I’m not sure which is which, until I see some response on whether we
> might just as well happen to be drifting along rudderless…!!
>
>
> You mean the post-Easter stupor, or??
>
>
> --
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